Digital BW, The Print

On 13/11/03 11:28 AM, "DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com" "Dr.
Robert Young" <rcyoung@...> wrote:

> Subject: QuadTone RIP and densitometers used?
> I am curious about what equipment people are using successfully (and easily)
> with this RIP for generating ink profiles.  Thoughts and suggestions
> appreciated.

Hi Robert
I've been using a DTP41 spectrophotometer with QuadToneRIP to make ink
profiles. The place I work for already owned one for an ICC profiling
package and we don't have anything else that will read reflection densities.
The DTP41 over-kill for the job and is not something I'd go out and buy just
for using QTR. However once it's up and running it sure is fast at spitting
out measurements from strips of patches!

Regards
Peter Miles

on 11/12/03 5:28 PM, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com at
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> It occurred to me that there will probably be a flood of Epson 3000s hitting
> the used market as the 4000 replaces them.  There are thousands of 3000s
> used in industry.  In fact, EBay seems to be getting the beginnings of this
> flood now.  The 3000s are selling for $400 - $500.  (For a 16x20 printer,
> this is cheap.)
> 
> Epson and others are also going to be selling lots more papers in 17"
> widths - for the 4000.  Some of these will, of course, also be good for the
> 3000.
> 
> So, I'm going to support the 3000 as the affordable quad 16x20 printer.
> 
> I'll load Ultra Tone inks into it first.  (One must flush with a special MIS
> UC base before loading Eboni.)  I'll also make, at a minimum, a new
> FS-N/Selenium (based on the UT inks) that will be Piezo and Epson curves
> compatible.  (I may also make an FS-Carbon if there is enough demand.
> However, the UT inkset can print carbon, so I'm not sure it'll be worth the
> effort.)   Also, of course, cross-platform curves will be made for these
> inks.
> 
> This should give B&W photographers on a budget a nice affordable 16x20
> platform.
> 
> So, novices can start with a $69 C82 and then go to 16x20 for $400 and
> change.  (Add Picture Window for $50.)  Not a bad deal for B&W photographers
> on a budget.
> 
> Paul
Paul, this sounds great.  Not rushing you, but when will the curves be ready
for the Mac.  Also what's Picture Window?  This all sounds like my kind of
budget - I'd thought for sure that I needed to buy a 75 or 7600 to get
beyond 13" wide.  Thanks again for your great ideas!

Roger Smith

Roger,

>>...
>>I'm going to support the 3000 as the affordable
>>quad 16x20 printer.
>
>> I'll load Ultra Tone inks into it first.  ...
>> Also, of course, cross-platform curves will be made
>>for these inks.
>>...

>Paul, this sounds great.  Not rushing you, but
>when will the curves be ready for the Mac.

I'll use the "No color Adjustment" setting so that the curves are
cross-platform.  As such, I hope that I'd have a set of curves done by the
end of the month, unless I run into unexpected problems.  (I'm also setting
up my new XP computer with PS CS, which will take some time.  I might try to
knock out the warm and neutral curves before I pull the plug on the current
computer, just in case there is a problem.)

>Also what's Picture Window?  ...

Digital Light and Color has a $50 image editing program that can use
Photoshop curves.  In fact, it can make better curves than Photoshop --
apparently unlimited points.  The more expensive PW that supports 16 bit
files is only $100.  PS is more powerful in many respects, but there is not
need to shell out big bucks to get into digital B&W.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com