Digital BW, The Print

Greetings, all.

Now that I am finally getting good results from my Epson 2200 using QTR, UC 
inks and PremierArt papers, I am thinking that I should start to move my large 
prints from darkroom to inkjet.   My impulse is to get a 7600 (maybe a 9600 if 
I hit Lotto) and set it up with QTR and use the UC inks, as I am with the 
2200.   But I have questions:

1.   Does the 7600 act like the 2200?   Or is it better behaved than the 2200 
when printing b+w prints?   Can it print neutral b+w prints with the Epson 
drivers?

2.   Can one drive the 7600 using QTR?   Are there any issues there that do 
not exist with the 2200?

3.   If I am using the 7600 to print only b+w prints onto buffered cotton 
papers, should I be considering third-party inksets instead of the UC inks?

All thoughts most appreciated.

Sanders McNew
www.mcnew.net


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I can't help you with 2 and 3, but the answer to neutral prints with the EPSON drivers is NO.
 
 
Tom Baker

sandersm@... wrote:

Greetings, all


Now that I am finally getting good results from my Epson 2200 using QTR, UC 
inks and PremierArt papers, I am thinking that I should start to move my large 
prints from darkroom to inkjet.   My impulse is to get a 7600 (maybe a 9600 if 
I hit Lotto) and set it up with QTR and use the UC inks, as I am with the 
2200.   But I have questions:

1.   Does the 7600 act like the 2200?   Or is it better behaved than the 2200 
when printing b+w prints?   Can it print neutral b+w prints with the Epson 
drivers?

2.   Can one drive the 7600 using QTR?   Are there any issues there that do 
not exist with the 2200?

3.   If I am using the 7600 to print only b+w prints onto buffered cotton 
papers, should I be considering third-party inksets instead of the UC inks?

All thoughts most appreciated.

Sanders McNew
www.mcnew.net


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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, sandersm@a... wrote:
> Greetings, all.
> 
> Now that I am finally getting good results from my Epson 2200 using QTR, UC 
> inks and PremierArt papers, I am thinking that I should start to move my large 
> prints from darkroom to inkjet.   My impulse is to get a 7600 (maybe a 9600 if 
> I hit Lotto) and set it up with QTR and use the UC inks, as I am with the 
> 2200.   But I have questions:
> 
> 1.   Does the 7600 act like the 2200?   Or is it better behaved than the 2200 
> when printing b+w prints?   Can it print neutral b+w prints with the Epson 
> drivers?
> 
> 2.   Can one drive the 7600 using QTR?   Are there any issues there that do 
> not exist with the 2200?
> 
> 3.   If I am using the 7600 to print only b+w prints onto buffered cotton 
> papers, should I be considering third-party inksets instead of the UC inks?
> 
> All thoughts most appreciated.
> 
> Sanders McNew
> www.mcnew.net
> 

Hi Sanders,

1)  In general, yes, the 7600 is fairly similar to the 2200 as far as printing
B&W.   It the same inks and the Epson driver uses the color inks resulting
in metamerism.  

2) I've done a little testing of a 7600 using QTR and the basics work.  I
haven't tried any roll paper, and the printer I used had Photo Black so
i don't have any matte profiles.

3) Gray inksets are certainly a reasonable alternative to UC inks if you
want only b&w.   Changing inks is fairly expensive in wasted ink unlike
the 2200.

You might also consider the 4000 if you aren't in a hurry.

Roy

Greetings:   I'm on a mac G4 OSX(10.2.8) ethernet to a imac (priint 
server) OSX and OS9 to  epson 7000 (colour) and epson 1200 (B&W).  My 
dilemma is epson does not support 0SX drivers for either of my 
printers.  I've read the info on QTR and it will work with my 
printers, but only works in OSX, does anyone know of a work-around or 
any way of getting QTR to work with my system???  thanks in 
advance....
regards
Larry

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Larry Ostrom <ostrom@r...> 
wrote:
> Greetings:   I'm on a mac G4 OSX(10.2.8) ethernet to a imac (priint 
> server) OSX and OS9 to  epson 7000 (colour) and epson 1200 (B&W).  My 
> dilemma is epson does not support 0SX drivers for either of my 
> printers.  I've read the info on QTR and it will work with my 
> printers, but only works in OSX, does anyone know of a work-around or 
> any way of getting QTR to work with my system???  thanks in 
> advance....
> regards
> Larry

Go to the Epson site there is an Epson OS X driver for the 1200 - but not the 7000. 
There are QTR curves for the 7500 so you could modify them to work with the 
7000...or if you can figure out how to calibrate with QTR just make new 7000 curves.

>
>Go to the Epson site there is an Epson OS X driver for the 1200 -
thanks,,, but thats is for 10.1--- I'm using 10.2.8  I've tried it 
will not load....

>
>There are QTR curves for the 7500 so you could modify them to work with the
>7000...or if you can figure out how to calibrate with QTR just make 
>new 7000 curves.

I think I follow you on that,,,
  one question,  does QTR replace the epson driver or do I use it just 
to do the curves in photoshop?
thanks again
Larry

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> >Go to the Epson site there is an Epson OS X driver for the 1200 -
> thanks,,, but thats is for 10.1--- I'm using 10.2.8  I've tried it 
> will not load....

I'm using the Epson 1200 driver in 10.3 (Panther) so it's probably a permissions 
problem. Have you Permission Repair? Have you logged on as another user and tried 
to install the print driver?

> does QTR replace the epson driver or do I use it just 
> to do the curves in photoshop?
> thanks again
> Larry


QTR is a different driver - it doesn't need the Espon Driver and has no problem co-
existing with it.

>
>I'm using the Epson 1200 driver in 10.3 (Panther) so it's probably a 
>permissions
>problem. Have you Permission Repair?
at the risk of sounding totally dumb, what is permission repair?¿  a software?

>  Have you logged on as another user and tried
>to install the print driver?
Haven't logged on as another user, but I've tried just about 
everything else and I keep getting
1200 driver not installed,,  the only other thing that I can think of 
is, in the printer list is Adobe PDF as well as the stylus photo 
1200,,  I cannot eliminate adobe PDF as it is greyed out.  When I 
high-light the 1200  and go to "epson USB" nothing is listed,  under 
regular "USB" both the 7000 and the 1200 are listed but it says 
"driver not installed"...   I'm at a loss...
regards
Larry
-- 
Ostrom Photography
  ostrom@...

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