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Advantages of MIS UT over VM ?

Advantages of MIS UT over VM ?

2003-11-25 by lesstaken

Aside from the obvious fact that the UT inks will allow you to print on either glossy or 
matte paper are there any other advantages to using the UT inks iunstead of the VM 
inks ?

RE: [Digital BW] Advantages of MIS UT over VM ?

2003-11-25 by Paul Roark

>Aside from the obvious fact that the UT inks will allow you
>to print on either glossy or
>matte paper are there any other advantages to using the
>UT inks iunstead of the VM inks ?

The UT inks are more lightfast.  The VM inks are an older generation of
pigments that will warm shift and fade considerably more than the latest
generation of pigments.

Eboni also has a better dmax on a number of papers.

I also like the UT tones better.  For example, the VM "NC" curves were a bit
on the cool side to anticipate the warming of the inks.  As such, they are
actually a little colder than I like.  The UT inkset was mixed so that the
"nc" curve gives a tone that matches my lightly-selenium-toned silver
prints.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

Re: [Digital BW] Advantages of MIS UT over VM ?

2003-11-25 by lesstaken

Hello Paul

> Eboni also has a better dmax on a number of papers.

I found the following on the MIS website and was wondering if the Eboni referred to is 
the same as the Eboni included with the UltraTone inkset ?

Early this year (2003) a new blacker pigment became available, via our pigment 
supplier.  We used it to create a new black ink to replace the Double Density and VM/
FS black inks.  This new ink is a pure carbon pigment ink, like the others, but it has 
fantastic fade resistance and will not shift.  After 600 hours in the Miami Sun (our test 
chamber) there was no measurable change in density or and the Delta-E was zero, ie, 
no shifting.  We code named this new black Eboni. It's estimated life in Wilhelm years 
is well over 100.         

        As of March 1, 2003,  Eboni has taken the place of the Double Density, VM & FS 
black inks.  We have not changed part numbers or prices, but this is what you will 
now get when you order VM, VMS, FS, FSN or Double Density Black. It has the same 
Dmax, 1.72 as the other inks and will not effect profiles or workflow  curves.  It is the 
best black ink we have ever  made and it is superior to Cone's Museum Black.  It is 
also what we use in our PG and 7600 Archival inks as the Matte Black.  The older co-
solvent based black is no longer available.         
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> 
> I also like the UT tones better.  For example, the VM "NC" curves were a bit
> on the cool side to anticipate the warming of the inks.  As such, they are
> actually a little colder than I like.  The UT inkset was mixed so that the
> "nc" curve gives a tone that matches my lightly-selenium-toned silver
> prints.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com

RE: [Digital BW] Advantages of MIS UT over VM ?

2003-11-25 by Paul Roark

Yes, it's the same Eboni black ink.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com
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Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Advantages of MIS UT over VM ?


Hello Paul

> Eboni also has a better dmax on a number of papers.

I found the following on the MIS website and was wondering if the Eboni
referred to is
the same as the Eboni included with the UltraTone inkset ?

Early this year (2003) a new blacker pigment became available, via our
pigment
supplier.  We used it to create a new black ink to replace the Double
Density and VM/
FS black inks.  This new ink is a pure carbon pigment ink, like the others,
but it has
fantastic fade resistance and will not shift.  After 600 hours in the Miami
Sun (our test
chamber) there was no measurable change in density or and the Delta-E was
zero, ie,
no shifting.  We code named this new black Eboni. It's estimated life in
Wilhelm years
is well over 100.

        As of March 1, 2003,  Eboni has taken the place of the Double
Density, VM & FS
black inks.  We have not changed part numbers or prices, but this is what
you will
now get when you order VM, VMS, FS, FSN or Double Density Black. It has the
same
Dmax, 1.72 as the other inks and will not effect profiles or workflow
curves.  It is the
best black ink we have ever  made and it is superior to Cone's Museum Black.
It is
also what we use in our PG and 7600 Archival inks as the Matte Black.  The
older co-
solvent based black is no longer available.

>
> I also like the UT tones better.  For example, the VM "NC" curves were a
bit
> on the cool side to anticipate the warming of the inks.  As such, they are
> actually a little colder than I like.  The UT inkset was mixed so that the
> "nc" curve gives a tone that matches my lightly-selenium-toned silver
> prints.
>
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com



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