Digital BW, The Print

I joined this group hoping to find info on B&W digital printing but it turns to be a smorgasbord of unrelated stuff.  How many shots any one takes is totally unrelated and I am getting fed up with dozens of emails cluttering my screen, which have nothing to do with the main theme.  If it keeps up I will end my participation.  If there is a moderator please read the riot act.  These postings render the whole thing almost useless.
Julio Fernandez

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: sceptre12345 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 8:34 AM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: B&W vs. Color


  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Editor P.O.V. 
  Image Service" <editor@p...> wrote:
  > I am simply amazed at the low ratio of "keeper" images people are 
  getting.
  > Keith Krebs
  > 
  I'm simply amazed at the number of shots taken by digital 
  photographers these days. (This is not a digital vs film thing).
  I guess technology allows it and why not use it, since it doesnt cost 
  more to take 50 or 300 shots if you have the memory cards.

  I remember reading about french photographer Edouard Boubat, who in 
  the 1950's, when film wasn't cheap in comparaison to the pay, would 
  go out on a commercial shoot with a Rolleiflex and one roll of film. 
  At the end of the day, he sometimes still had unexposed shots that he 
  used for his personal photography.

  That would probably be called extreme by today's standard, but I 
  wonder what's the ratio of keepers for someone who uses an 8x10 
  camera today ?

  For those who don't know Boubat's work:
  http://www.ewgalerie.com/Fotografen/Boubat.html

  Cheers,
  Andre










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I totally agree, why not move all of this post to a "Off Topic" 
group were they really belong, Oh, I would include this one to.
To try to find anything of interest here has proved impossible over 
the last few days.

Sierra Gold
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Julio 
Fernandez" <gluemax@s...> wrote:
> I joined this group hoping to find info on B&W digital printing 
but it turns to be a smorgasbord of unrelated stuff.  How many shots 
any one takes is totally unrelated and I am getting fed up with 
dozens of emails cluttering my screen, which have nothing to do with 
the main theme.  If it keeps up I will end my participation.  If 
there is a moderator please read the riot act.  These postings 
render the whole thing almost useless.
> Julio Fernandez
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: sceptre12345 
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 8:34 AM
>   Subject: [Digital BW] Re: B&W vs. Color
> 
> 
>   --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Editor 
P.O.V. 
>   Image Service" <editor@p...> wrote:
>   > I am simply amazed at the low ratio of "keeper" images people 
are 
>   getting.
>   > Keith Krebs
>   > 
>   I'm simply amazed at the number of shots taken by digital 
>   photographers these days. (This is not a digital vs film thing).
>   I guess technology allows it and why not use it, since it doesnt 
cost 
>   more to take 50 or 300 shots if you have the memory cards.
> 
>   I remember reading about french photographer Edouard Boubat, who 
in 
>   the 1950's, when film wasn't cheap in comparaison to the pay, 
would 
>   go out on a commercial shoot with a Rolleiflex and one roll of 
film. 
>   At the end of the day, he sometimes still had unexposed shots 
that he 
>   used for his personal photography.
> 
>   That would probably be called extreme by today's standard, but I 
>   wonder what's the ratio of keepers for someone who uses an 8x10 
>   camera today ?
> 
>   For those who don't know Boubat's work:
>   http://www.ewgalerie.com/Fotografen/Boubat.html
> 
>   Cheers,
>   Andre
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

In fact, I think it's good to occasionally get a somewhat heated 
discussion going (in the name of hashing out ideas and/or 
opinions), so long as it doesn't lead to a kitchen fire. And Martin 
seems quite skilled, and well-timed, with the fire extinguisher. ;-)

- Barrett

"You may leave school, but it never leaves you" - XTC

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
"flyfishingusa2002" <tflyfish@c...> wrote:
> I totally agree, why not move all of this post to a "Off Topic" 
> group were they really belong, Oh, I would include this one to.
> To try to find anything of interest here has proved impossible 
over 

> the last few days.
> 
> Sierra Gold