Digital BW, The Print

really finding  Clayton's articles useful. ( Although I notice it 
says revised  nov 2003 but still hase 2002 dates in article and 
talks about using a 1280 not a 2200) -I wonder if clayton or anyone 
else can comment on the difference between this apporach on  
lunimous landscape  and clayton's approach.

  http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/printers/2200-bw.shtml

I suggested this method of using the Epson driver to print B&W on the 
2200 when I first started using the printer.  Using the 
"Photorealistic" driver setting does improve shadow detail and avoids 
the non-linearity problem when using the driver in NCA mode with 
profiles, but the major problem with this method is metamerism.  The 
latter problem is a result of using all of the color inks (in large 
amounts) to generate a neutral gray scale.  A good RIP (QTR, IJC/OPM, 
ImagePrint) will do a much better job of controlling the specific inks 
used and the amounts needed for a neutral (or toned) B&W print without 
metamerism.

Carl Schofield

On Sunday, November 30, 2003, at 09:42  AM, jerdiakiw wrote:

>   really finding  Clayton's articles useful. ( Although I notice it
> says revised  nov 2003 but still hase 2002 dates in article and
> talks about using a 1280 not a 2200) -I wonder if clayton or anyone
> else can comment on the difference between this apporach on
> lunimous landscape  and clayton's approach.
>
>   http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/printers/2200-bw.shtml
>
>

Hello Jerry,

>really finding  Clayton's articles useful. ( Although I notice it 
>says revised nov 2003 but still hase 2002 dates in article

I found in article #4 I missed changing the copyright date, got it
now, thanks for the sharp eyes.


>and talks about using a 1280 not a 2200) 

Not sure what you mean by this.  The only place I mention a 1280 is in
the recommendations section of #3:

 "I recommend getting either the 1280 model or the 2200."


All of the detailed settings are for the 2200 in the "How To Do It"
section:

 "Here are the settings I use for Black-Only Printing with the 2200"


I don't think I mentioned the 1280 anywhere else.  


Regards,
Clayton


Info on black and white digital printing at    
http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm

I just could;t get to the page you are mentioning  by clicking the 
link in your messages On my comouter when I click your link at the 
bottom of this message I get the older version with no ref to 2200 
but got it another way thnaks  you may want to update this link  
below
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton Jones" 
<cj@c...> wrote:
> Hello Jerry,
> 
> >really finding  Clayton's articles useful. ( Although I notice it 
> >says revised nov 2003 but still hase 2002 dates in article
> 
> I found in article #4 I missed changing the copyright date, got it
> now, thanks for the sharp eyes.
> 
> 
> >and talks about using a 1280 not a 2200) 
> 
> Not sure what you mean by this.  The only place I mention a 1280 
is in
> the recommendations section of #3:
> 
>  "I recommend getting either the 1280 model or the 2200."
> 
> 
> All of the detailed settings are for the 2200 in the "How To Do It"
> section:
> 
>  "Here are the settings I use for Black-Only Printing with the 
2200"

> 
> 
> I don't think I mentioned the 1280 anywhere else.  
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Clayton
> 
> 
> Info on black and white digital printing at    
> http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm

Hello Jerry,

>On my comouter when I click your link at the bottom of this 
>message I get the older version with no ref to 2200

I think your browser has cached the older page.  Just refresh your
browser and it should be ok.

Regards,
Clayton


Info on black and white digital printing at    
http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm

Just in case this hasn't been brought up before: when 
comparing output between the Epson 1280 and 2200 (whether 
for color, quad/septone or b-o black-and-white), remember that 
that the 1280 "best" output is 2880 x 720 dpi, while the 2200's is 
2880 x 1440dpi.

I only mention this because, as near as I can tell, just about 
everyone here has been mentioning "2880" in reference to both 
printers, without mentioning "that other number".

- Barrett

>Just in case this hasn't been brought up before: when 
>comparing output between the Epson 1280 and 2200 (whether 
>for color, quad/septone or b-o black-and-white), remember that 
>that the 1280 "best" output is 2880 x 720 dpi, while the 2200's is 
>2880 x 1440dpi.
> 
>I only mention this because, as near as I can tell, just about 
>everyone here has been mentioning "2880" in reference to both 
>printers, without mentioning "that other number".

Good point, thanks.


Regards,
Clayton


Info on black and white digital printing at    
http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm