Digital BW, The Print

I am stunned by the time your machine needs to start PS-CS.
My laptop Win XP - 2.4GHz, 1GB RAM, with the 3.8GB partition for a 
scratch disk loads the PS-CS in 28 sec.
I have just checked it 3 times, rebooting the machine and starting from 
scratch.
My old station Win2K - 550MHz, 1GB RAM, with the 15GB partition for a 
scratch disk loads the PS-CS long -
say very long for me - 1min 27 sec.
I have not too many plugins, but the usual Andromeda, Genuine Fractals, 
IR and so. I could never thought that the machine
with double processor drags it's feet that much.
--- If I am frustrated by the slow start of the PS-CS... Wow...

Jack

Editor P.O.V. Image Service wrote:

> This was originally prepared by me for the EPSON list I caretake, but I
> though people here might like to see it.
>
>
> Versions of PShop earlier than CS only allowed the option of outputting
> in 8 bit to the driver. However, you could still print a 16 bit image..
> PhotoShop simply did the conversion to 8 bit, before handing the data to
> the driver.. Now, PShop CS CAN output 16 bits to the driver, but only
> AFAIK only RIPS can handle the 16 bit data directly, not stock EPSON or
> Canon drivers (which are restricted to 8 bit input)
>
> Except in the rarest of cases, like a quad B&W inkset on the rare image
> where 8 bit data sent to a RIP caused some visible banding,
> posterization, or other artifacting, I'd say this is not a big deal..
> After all most professional RIPS don't need to take data from
> PhotoShop anyway, and can directly print from a save 16 bit TIFF, etc..
>
> Beyond a RIP as mentioned above, I see no reason to wait even longer for
> prints, just to say I used 16 bit..
>
>
> Some data for my dual CPU WinTel system with 2gB RAM (1.5 gB used for
> the system and 512mB of RAM set aside as the first scratch disk -
> contiguous disk space on 7200 RPM drives for the rest of the scratch
> space):.. All settings and plugins on both versions of PShop are the
> same.. (One important thing, these operations were done in the order
> listed, you'll see that PhotoShop doesn't like to return RAM.. That's
> one reason I say it badly needs some new memory management instead of
> feature upgrades. Work with a really big image and you are better off
> closing PhotoShop and restarting it if you don't plan on continuing
> using images that large, as the rest of your system will still be taking
> the RAM hit for the largest image.)
>
> (RAM usage figures are for the PEAK RAM usage during the operation)
>
> Photoshop 7
>
> To Load/Start-up the program: 40 seconds - PhotoShop using 65 mB of RAM
> and a 48 mB Scratch file
>
> To load a 44mB PSD file: 8 seconds - PhotoShop using 153 mB of RAM and
> a 217 mB Scratch file
>
> To load a 64mB TIFF file: 9 seconds - PhotoShop using 222 mB of RAM
> and a 233 mB Scratch file
>
> Unsharp Mask Applied to 8 BIT 64 mB TIFF: 3 seconds - PhotoShop using
> 227 mB of RAM and a 233 mB Scratch file
>
> Unsharp Mask Applied to 16 BIT 128mB TIFF (16 bit version of preceding 8
> BIT 64 mB TIFF): 16 seconds - PhotoShop using 358 mB of RAM and a 358
> mB Scratch file
>
> Conversion from 64 mB 8 BIT file to 128 mB 16 BIT file: 3 seconds -
> PhotoShop using 363 mB of RAM and a 299 mB Scratch file
>
> Extensis Intellihance Pro 4 plugin running on the 64mB 8 BIT file: 29
> seconds - PhotoShop using 437 mB of RAM and 300 mB Scratch File
>
> At no point did PS 7 exceed the RAMDISK Scratch file capacity.
>
>
>
> PhotoShop CS
>
> To Load/Start-up the program: 4 min 16 seconds (my recommendation, GO
> GET COFFEE! - actually you could probably grind it from beans and brew
> it.. most of this time was spent scanning plugins) - PhotoShop using
> 104 mB of RAM, a 523 mB Scratch file on the RAM DISK, and 1.4 gB of
> contiguous Hard Drive Scratch Space..
>
> To load a 44mB PSD file: 2 seconds - PhotoShop using 238 mB of RAM a
> 523 mB Scratch file on the RAM DISK, and 1.6 gB of contiguous Hard
> Drive Scratch Space..
>
> To load a 64mB TIFF file: 3 seconds - PhotoShop using 217 mB of RAM a
> 523 mB Scratch file on the RAM DISK, and 1.5 gB of contiguous Hard
> Drive Scratch Space.. (I'm surprised, but it actually gave back some RAM!)
>
> Unsharp Mask Applied to 8 BIT 64 mB TIFF: 5 seconds - PhotoShop using
> 309 mB of RAM, a 523 mB Scratch file on the RAM DISK, and 1.6 gB of
> contiguous Hard Drive Scratch Space..
>
> Unsharp Mask Applied to 16 BIT 128mB TIFF (16 bit version of preceding 8
> BIT 64 mB TIFF): 12 seconds - PhotoShop using 430 mB of RAM, a 523 mB
> Scratch file on the RAM DISK, and 1.8 gB of contiguous Hard Drive
> Scratch Space..
>
> Conversion from 64 mB 8 BIT file to 128 mB 16 BIT file: 3 seconds
> - PhotoShop using 405 mB of RAM, a 523 mB Scratch file on the RAM
> DISK, and 1.7 gB of contiguous Hard Drive Scratch Space..
>
> Extensis Intellihance Pro 4 plugin running on the 64mB 8 BIT file: 27
> seconds - PhotoShop using 637 mB of RAM, a 523 mB Scratch file on the
> RAM DISK, and 1.9 gB of contiguous Hard Drive Scratch Space..
>
> Preliminary thoughts.. Ok, you can see incremental increases in speed of
> some operations.. BUT, the hit to the rest of the system is an order of
> magnitude higher.. That means I would be more likely to want to quit
> PShop CS to use other applications. Unfortunately, the extended load
> time mitigates against choosing to do that..
>
> Whether this upgrade is worth it, is up to the individual user..
>
>
>
> Keith Krebs
>
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> User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo
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> I am stunned by the time your machine needs to start PS-CS.

The AutoFX Edges plug-in will kill you on boot-up time. I removed it 
from my plug-ins folder in PS CS and put in a dedicated folder only 
to be used when needed just because of the boot-up time it requires.

sanfo2003 wrote:

>>I am stunned by the time your machine needs to start PS-CS.
>>    
>>
>
>The AutoFX Edges plug-in will kill you on boot-up time. I removed it 
>from my plug-ins folder in PS CS and put in a dedicated folder only 
>to be used when needed just because of the boot-up time it requires.
>
>  
>
THANKS! I can disable it with Plugin Manager..

 
Keith Krebs

"Just some guy," caretaker of the Multiverse's largest EPSON printer 
User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo 
Publications), at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSON_Printers/
and  the Multiverse's largest Canon printer User  Community at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Canon-printers
"For the rest of you out there, the secret is to bang the rocks together 
guys"