Re: [Digital BW] Learning Phase
2004-01-10 by lea
I'm a new subscriber to this list as well and must say, as a reader for the past 2 weeks I've learned A LOT in such a short period. Thanks to everyone who so freely shares and discusses this wonderful technology. Joe, my reading and experience shows that BO printing on the 2200 pulls from the black cartridge only BUT I do notice my light magenta goes down significantly when I print BO. Some articles indicate this is due to head cleaning cycles but I find it goes down faster than any of the other colors so I have to think it may actually be being pulled? I don't know for certain and can only guess but it seems to me that ink is going somewhere! I've not pulled out a loupe to look closely so maybe someone with more knowlege can address this. As for shortest learning curves, I've found that picking an image with a full range of tones (for me this is portraits since that's what I specialize in) and printing that same image over and over with different settings while keeping notes on the actual printed sheet about what I did has been most helpful. These I then file away and come back to later for reference. I've used matte paper for some of these tests, Epson lustre finish and Ilford's pearl finish. Keeping notes seems to be the best way for me to learn and keep it all straight. I've not tried the Eboni ink but I'm tempted more and more to give it a try. I'm also looking at the Septone ink set. So many choices..................so little fundage! Lea
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Dempsey" <jdempsey@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 11:06 AM Subject: [Digital BW] Learning Phase I am new to this board and have been monitoring (with great interest) the continuing exhange of opinion and fact regarding digital BW output. It is of particular interest since I have had a number of requests for my images in BW. Generally, I shoot with a Nikon D100, (NEF Raw), correct color to my liking and convert to bw by either selecting the most favorable RGB channel or more often go from the lightness channel in LAB color and then saving to grayscale. I am achieving satisfactory results on the screen, but the RGB output, for the most part does have a color cast of some sort. My editing software is PS/CS. My printer is an EPSON 2200. I went to the MIS site to see about the much-heralded Eboni, but in my on inimitable manner failed to click the correct link. For those of you who have graciously stuck with me to this point, my questions are: 1. Is BO output from the black cartridge only ... or do you put black cartridges in all the slots? 2. What is the simplest way to start the experimental output (shortest learning curve) ... and then graduate to curves, workflows, etc.? Thanks for your patience from down here in LA (Lower Arkansas). Kindest regards, Joe Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/