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converting to B&W in Capture One, or Convert BW Pro?

converting to B&W in Capture One, or Convert BW Pro?

2004-01-18 by edturlington

(also posted in Imageprint Group)

I have been using ACR to convert raw to tiff, then using Convert to
B&W Pro for B&W.

I just got Capture One, and it has a setting for "CONVERT TO GENERIC
GRAYSCALE" in the develop tab under color mgmt.

I have 3 options:
1. Use C1 to convert to color tiff, then use Convert BW Pro, sharpen
and print
2. Use C1 and convert to GENERIC GRAYSCALE from raw--make minor
curves/contrast adjustment, sharpen and print.
3. Use C1 and convert to GENERIC GRAYSCALE from raw--then open the
file in Convert BW Pro for more adjustments...

I'm guessing number 1, but some of you already crossed this bridge??

RE: [Digital BW] converting to B&W in Capture One, or Convert BW Pro?

2004-01-18 by Paul D. DeRocco

> From: edturlington [mailto:eturlington@...]
>
> I have been using ACR to convert raw to tiff, then using Convert to
> B&W Pro for B&W.
>
> I just got Capture One, and it has a setting for "CONVERT TO GENERIC
> GRAYSCALE" in the develop tab under color mgmt.
>
> I have 3 options:
> 1. Use C1 to convert to color tiff, then use Convert BW Pro, sharpen
> and print
> 2. Use C1 and convert to GENERIC GRAYSCALE from raw--make minor
> curves/contrast adjustment, sharpen and print.
> 3. Use C1 and convert to GENERIC GRAYSCALE from raw--then open the
> file in Convert BW Pro for more adjustments...
>
> I'm guessing number 1, but some of you already crossed this bridge??

Never crossed that bridge, but I presume the point of Convert BW Pro is that
it gives you some nicer knobs to twiddle when conversing from color. Only
option 1 preserves that.

--

Ciao,               Paul D. DeRocco
Paul                mailto:pderocco@...

Re: converting to B&W in Capture One, or Convert BW Pro?

2004-01-19 by Glenn Mitchell

If you join http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canon10d, you'll find a 
Tutorials folder in the Files section for the group. There are two 
tutorials for B&W conversion.

One uses Split Channels in PS. The other uses a pair of 
Hue/Saturation adjustment layers. Both techniques will provide 
*MUCH* better contrast in your B&W conversion than doing a generic 
grayscale mode conversion in PS or C1. You have more localized 
control than using Channel Mixer in PS, too.

Feel free just to join temporarily and grab the downloads. I 
moderate the group, and lots of people have done just that.

I'll have a new Web site available soon, and the tutorials will be 
available there at that point. No need to join a Yahoo! Group even 
temporarily.

The tutorials are also Adobe .PDF files. You cannot print or extract 
image details however. They are locked to protect my copyright. All 
I ask is that you do respect my copyright and use the files for your 
own work and not distribute. I don't care if you use them for 
personal work or business, just please do not redistribute them.

If the moderator of this group will agree to respect my copyright 
(meaning, I can withdraw them at anytime), I will agree to post them 
in the Files section here.

I welcome e-mail that let's me know how useful you find them and/or 
offers constructive advice.

Cheers,

Mitch

RE: [Digital BW] Re: converting to B&W in Capture One, or Convert BW Pro?

2004-01-19 by Jim Doyle

Glen,

Thanks!  I know I they would be very useful to me on a personal basis!

Thanks Again
Jim Doyle


J.Doyle Enterprises L.L.C.
114 Old Orchard Rd.
Cherry Hill, NJ 08003
856-424-8660
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Glenn Mitchell [mailto:gmitchel850@...]
  Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 11:57 PM
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: converting to B&W in Capture One, or Convert BW
Pro?


  If you join http://groups.yahoo.com/group/canon10d, you'll find a
  Tutorials folder in the Files section for the group. There are two
  tutorials for B&W conversion.

  One uses Split Channels in PS. The other uses a pair of
  Hue/Saturation adjustment layers. Both techniques will provide
  *MUCH* better contrast in your B&W conversion than doing a generic
  grayscale mode conversion in PS or C1. You have more localized
  control than using Channel Mixer in PS, too.

  Feel free just to join temporarily and grab the downloads. I
  moderate the group, and lots of people have done just that.

  I'll have a new Web site available soon, and the tutorials will be
  available there at that point. No need to join a Yahoo! Group even
  temporarily.

  The tutorials are also Adobe .PDF files. You cannot print or extract
  image details however. They are locked to protect my copyright. All
  I ask is that you do respect my copyright and use the files for your
  own work and not distribute. I don't care if you use them for
  personal work or business, just please do not redistribute them.

  If the moderator of this group will agree to respect my copyright
  (meaning, I can withdraw them at anytime), I will agree to post them
  in the Files section here.

  I welcome e-mail that let's me know how useful you find them and/or
  offers constructive advice.

  Cheers,

  Mitch



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Re: [Digital BW] converting to B&W in Capture One, or Convert BW Pro?

2004-01-19 by Kip Babington

I believe the color contrast filter and the film type sliders of Convert BW 
Pro require color layers in order to be effective - once all three layers 
are equal in density (which I believe is the case once the image is in 
grayscale) there is nothing for the color contrast filter or "film type" 
selector to differentiate between the layers.  The exposure and contrast 
sliders probably would still work, but to preserve the full utility of 
Convert BW Pro you probably would need to stick with your option 1 rather 
than use option 3.

Cheers,
Kip

At 1/18/2004 12:10 AM +0000, you wrote:
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>I have been using ACR to convert raw to tiff, then using Convert to
>B&W Pro for B&W.
>
>I just got Capture One, and it has a setting for "CONVERT TO GENERIC
>GRAYSCALE" in the develop tab under color mgmt.
>
>I have 3 options:
>1. Use C1 to convert to color tiff, then use Convert BW Pro, sharpen
>and print
>2. Use C1 and convert to GENERIC GRAYSCALE from raw--make minor
>curves/contrast adjustment, sharpen and print.
>3. Use C1 and convert to GENERIC GRAYSCALE from raw--then open the
>file in Convert BW Pro for more adjustments...
>
>I'm guessing number 1, but some of you already crossed this bridge??

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