Digital BW, The Print

Jose, Thanks for the critique. I'd been feeling quite depressed after the
opening - a kind of anti climax I suppose, but I went back on Saturday and a
lot of people were standing around discussing the pictures, however, I kept
hearing 'si estan buenos, pero, treinte mille pelas..! (or something like
that!)

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jose Luis Martinez" <jlmartinez@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 1:36 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Piezo exhibition in Barcelona!


> Hi all,
>
> Last wednesday I went to what was probably the first
> photographic exhibition of Piezo prints in Spain.
>
> An historical moment! (at least for me) that I want
> to share with this list.
>
> There were 20 to 25 pictures made by Julian Thomas,
> a series of street shots taken in London and Barcelona.
>
> I have to say that I was amazed by the technical
> quality of the pictures. Julian prints showed rich grays,
> deep blacks, sharpness, no banding, no posterazation, just
> a perfect digital darkroom work.
>
> You could not tell that those prints were made with an Inkjet.
>
> In fact the prints were technically so good that you quickly forgot
> how they were made (if you knew that they were Piezo, of course)
> and concentrate on what was really important: the pictures.
>
> And let me tell you the pictures were great. Some of them
> full of irony or humour and some other capturing beautiful
> moments of those cities.
>
> bottom line: lots of sensibility.
>
> Congratulations Julian! My virtual applause.
>
> Jose Luis Martinez
> Barcelona - Spain
>
> PS. Cone and Hahnem\ufffdhle should be sponsoring this. They would
> sell inks and papers like crazy! ;-)
>
>
>
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Congratulations Julian, on being first, but more importantly, for being
good!

Todd

> Jose, Thanks for the critique. I'd been feeling quite depressed after the
> opening - a kind of anti climax I suppose, but I went back on Saturday and a
> lot of people were standing around discussing the pictures, however, I kept
> hearing 'si estan buenos, pero, treinte mille pelas..! (or something like
> that!)
> 
> Julian

>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Last wednesday I went to what was probably the first
>> photographic exhibition of Piezo prints in Spain.
>> 
>> An historical moment! (at least for me) that I want
>> to share with this list.
>> 
>> There were 20 to 25 pictures made by Julian Thomas,
>> a series of street shots taken in London and Barcelona.
>> 
>> I have to say that I was amazed by the technical
>> quality of the pictures. Julian prints showed rich grays,
>> deep blacks, sharpness, no banding, no posterazation, just
>> a perfect digital darkroom work.
>> 
>> You could not tell that those prints were made with an Inkjet.
>> 
>> In fact the prints were technically so good that you quickly forgot
>> how they were made (if you knew that they were Piezo, of course)
>> and concentrate on what was really important: the pictures.
>> 
>> And let me tell you the pictures were great. Some of them
>> full of irony or humour and some other capturing beautiful
>> moments of those cities.
>> 
>> bottom line: lots of sensibility.
>> 
>> Congratulations Julian! My virtual applause.
>> 
>> Jose Luis Martinez
>> Barcelona - Spain
>> 
>> PS. Cone and Hahnemühle should be sponsoring this. They would
>> sell inks and papers like crazy! ;-)

Forgive me...you probably already said this...but what did you call your
prints?  Did you frame under glass?

Robert

On 10/14/01 3:00 PM, "Todd Flashner" <tflash@...> wrote:

> Congratulations Julian, on being first, but more importantly, for being
> good!
> 
> Todd
> 
>> Jose, Thanks for the critique. I'd been feeling quite depressed after the
>> opening - a kind of anti climax I suppose, but I went back on Saturday and a
>> lot of people were standing around discussing the pictures, however, I kept
>> hearing 'si estan buenos, pero, treinte mille pelas..! (or something like
>> that!)
>> 
>> Julian
> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Last wednesday I went to what was probably the first
>>> photographic exhibition of Piezo prints in Spain.
>>> 
>>> An historical moment! (at least for me) that I want
>>> to share with this list.
>>> 
>>> There were 20 to 25 pictures made by Julian Thomas,
>>> a series of street shots taken in London and Barcelona.
>>> 
>>> I have to say that I was amazed by the technical
>>> quality of the pictures. Julian prints showed rich grays,
>>> deep blacks, sharpness, no banding, no posterazation, just
>>> a perfect digital darkroom work.
>>> 
>>> You could not tell that those prints were made with an Inkjet.
>>> 
>>> In fact the prints were technically so good that you quickly forgot
>>> how they were made (if you knew that they were Piezo, of course)
>>> and concentrate on what was really important: the pictures.
>>> 
>>> And let me tell you the pictures were great. Some of them
>>> full of irony or humour and some other capturing beautiful
>>> moments of those cities.
>>> 
>>> bottom line: lots of sensibility.
>>> 
>>> Congratulations Julian! My virtual applause.
>>> 
>>> Jose Luis Martinez
>>> Barcelona - Spain
>>> 
>>> PS. Cone and Hahnemühle should be sponsoring this. They would
>>> sell inks and papers like crazy! ;-)
> 
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Robert Morrison
rmorrison@...

310-397-2704

4131 Bledsoe Ave.
Los Angeles, CA 90066

I didn't call them anything! On the Certificate of Authenticity they are
Carbon Quadtones. I just gave each picture a title in English and Spanish.
They were printed on MR, PR and Museo matted and mounted to 50x70 cm.

Julian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Morrison" <rmorrison@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Piezo exhibition in Barcelona!


Forgive me...you probably already said this...but what did you call your
prints?  Did you frame under glass?

Robert

On 10/14/01 3:00 PM, "Todd Flashner" <tflash@...> wrote:

> Congratulations Julian, on being first, but more importantly, for being
> good!
>
> Todd
>
>> Jose, Thanks for the critique. I'd been feeling quite depressed after the
>> opening - a kind of anti climax I suppose, but I went back on Saturday
and a
>> lot of people were standing around discussing the pictures, however, I
kept
>> hearing 'si estan buenos, pero, treinte mille pelas..! (or something like
>> that!)
>>
>> Julian
>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Last wednesday I went to what was probably the first
>>> photographic exhibition of Piezo prints in Spain.
>>>
>>> An historical moment! (at least for me) that I want
>>> to share with this list.
>>>
>>> There were 20 to 25 pictures made by Julian Thomas,
>>> a series of street shots taken in London and Barcelona.
>>>
>>> I have to say that I was amazed by the technical
>>> quality of the pictures. Julian prints showed rich grays,
>>> deep blacks, sharpness, no banding, no posterazation, just
>>> a perfect digital darkroom work.
>>>
>>> You could not tell that those prints were made with an Inkjet.
>>>
>>> In fact the prints were technically so good that you quickly forgot
>>> how they were made (if you knew that they were Piezo, of course)
>>> and concentrate on what was really important: the pictures.
>>>
>>> And let me tell you the pictures were great. Some of them
>>> full of irony or humour and some other capturing beautiful
>>> moments of those cities.
>>>
>>> bottom line: lots of sensibility.
>>>
>>> Congratulations Julian! My virtual applause.
>>>
>>> Jose Luis Martinez
>>> Barcelona - Spain
>>>
>>> PS. Cone and Hahnem\ufffdhle should be sponsoring this. They would
>>> sell inks and papers like crazy! ;-)
>
>
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Robert Morrison
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310-397-2704

4131 Bledsoe Ave.
Los Angeles, CA 90066


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>I didn't call them anything! On the Certificate of Authenticity they are
>Carbon Quadtones. I just gave each picture a title in English and Spanish.
>They were printed on MR, PR and Museo matted and mounted to 50x70 cm.
>
>Julian

Is there a de facto international/global certificate of authenticity?

Sam

> Is there a de facto international/global certificate of authenticity?

If one can duplicate the image (or what ever item the COA is for), why not
the certificate of authenticity too?

I've always had a bit of a tick in my neck when I hear "certificate of
authenticity"...do I need a certificate of authenticity for my certificate
of authenticity...  COAs are one of those stupid human tricks in my opinion.

I got mine from a web site - can't remember which one. Bear in mind that
there is no such thing as globallaw per se.

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam A. McCandless" <samcc@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Piezo exhibition in Barcelona!


> >I didn't call them anything! On the Certificate of Authenticity they are
> >Carbon Quadtones. I just gave each picture a title in English and
Spanish.
> >They were printed on MR, PR and Museo matted and mounted to 50x70 cm.
> >
> >Julian
>
> Is there a de facto international/global certificate of authenticity?
>
> Sam
>
>
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I agree totally - it is just part of the game - I've played it this time,
but maybe not again. If a sale depends on it then why not?
Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 5:20 PM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Piezo exhibition in Barcelona!


>
> > Is there a de facto international/global certificate of authenticity?
>
> If one can duplicate the image (or what ever item the COA is for), why not
> the certificate of authenticity too?
>
> I've always had a bit of a tick in my neck when I hear "certificate of
> authenticity"...do I need a certificate of authenticity for my certificate
> of authenticity...  COAs are one of those stupid human tricks in my
opinion.
>
>
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and
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Julian,

I was in no way criticizing you (or anyone...except possibly the
"originator" of the COA ;-) at all!  Just the concept of "certificate of
authenticity".  Anything (short of illegal or immoral that is) that helps!

Regards,

Austin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julian Thomas [mailto:julianthomas@...]
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 11:30 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Piezo exhibition in Barcelona!
>
>
> I agree totally - it is just part of the game - I've played it this time,
> but maybe not again. If a sale depends on it then why not?
> Julian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 5:20 PM
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Piezo exhibition in Barcelona!
>
>
> >
> > > Is there a de facto international/global certificate of authenticity?
> >
> > If one can duplicate the image (or what ever item the COA is
> for), why not
> > the certificate of authenticity too?
> >
> > I've always had a bit of a tick in my neck when I hear "certificate of
> > authenticity"...do I need a certificate of authenticity for my
> certificate
> > of authenticity...  COAs are one of those stupid human tricks in my
> opinion.

Austin,
I didn't take it that you were! COAs are like 'Artists Statements', yet
something else that some people expect that almost seems to distance them
from the photo. My COA is in English - many people here would not understand
it even!

Julian

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Piezo exhibition in Barcelona!


> Julian,
>
> I was in no way criticizing you (or anyone...except possibly the
> "originator" of the COA ;-) at all!  Just the concept of "certificate of
> authenticity".  Anything (short of illegal or immoral that is) that helps!
>
> Regards,
>
> Austin
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Julian Thomas [mailto:julianthomas@...]
> > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 11:30 AM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Piezo exhibition in Barcelona!
> >
> >
> > I agree totally - it is just part of the game - I've played it this
time,
> > but maybe not again. If a sale depends on it then why not?
> > Julian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Austin Franklin" <darkroom@...>
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 5:20 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Piezo exhibition in Barcelona!
> >
> >
> > >
> > > > Is there a de facto international/global certificate of
authenticity?
> > >
> > > If one can duplicate the image (or what ever item the COA is
> > for), why not
> > > the certificate of authenticity too?
> > >
> > > I've always had a bit of a tick in my neck when I hear "certificate of
> > > authenticity"...do I need a certificate of authenticity for my
> > certificate
> > > of authenticity...  COAs are one of those stupid human tricks in my
> > opinion.
>
>
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