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2004-02-25 by jzall
I'm about to transition my 1270 from VM inks to UT2. I'm wondering if the VM black is compatible with the UT2 'color' carts. If anyone has tried this, I'd appreciate hearing about the results. Thanks. Jim Zall
2004-02-25 by Paul Roark
Jim, >I'm about to transition my 1270 from VM inks to UT2. I'm wondering if >the VM black is compatible with the UT2 'color' carts. ... I have not tried it, but I don't think there is a serious compatibility issue. It may through some curves off a little, but probably not significantly. The Eboni black has a better dmax on EEM and is much more lightfast. When you run out of VM K and if you switch to Eboni (recommended), rinse the pads before putting in Eboni to get the dyes off them. Paul www.PaulRoark.com For UT2 information, curves, and settings see: http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/
2004-02-25 by Stephen Petegorsky
Paul - Is there a good description of the pad-rinsing procedure somewhere in the files? Thanks for all your generous and wonderful work. Stephen Petegorsky
2004-02-25 by jzall
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > Jim, > > >I'm about to transition my 1270 from VM inks to UT2. I'm wondering if > >the VM black is compatible with the UT2 'color' carts. ... > > I have not tried it, but I don't think there is a serious compatibility > issue. It may through some curves off a little, but probably not > significantly. The Eboni black has a better dmax on EEM and is much more > lightfast. When you run out of VM K and if you switch to Eboni > (recommended), rinse the pads before putting in Eboni to get the dyes off > them. Thanks, Paul. I thought that the black in the VM carts *is* Eboni. MIS had a notice on their web site many months ago (can't find it now) that they were using Eboni in place of the previous black because it was so much better. I'll also second the request for instructions on pad-rinsing. Thanks for your help. Jim
2004-02-26 by Paul Roark
Jim, You're probably right. If the VM inks are new, then the black probably is Eboni, which is all the same. Paul www.PaulRoark.com For UT2 information, curves, and settings see: http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/
----Original Message----- From: jzall [mailto:jzall@...] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 3:19 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] MIS VM black with UT2 'color'? --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > Jim, > > >I'm about to transition my 1270 from VM inks to UT2. I'm wondering if > >the VM black is compatible with the UT2 'color' carts. ... > > I have not tried it, but I don't think there is a serious compatibility > issue. It may through some curves off a little, but probably not > significantly. The Eboni black has a better dmax on EEM and is much more > lightfast. When you run out of VM K and if you switch to Eboni > (recommended), rinse the pads before putting in Eboni to get the dyes off > them. Thanks, Paul. I thought that the black in the VM carts *is* Eboni. MIS had a notice on their web site many months ago (can't find it now) that they were using Eboni in place of the previous black because it was so much better. I'll also second the request for instructions on pad-rinsing. Thanks for your help. Jim Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
2004-02-26 by Edward Wiseman
Jim.. I was switched to EBONY black by MIS(along with a NEW empty black CIS cartridge for my 1160 when I converted from the "original" VM inkset to a later VMS (SEPIA) inkset which I currently use.. Eddie Wiseman
----- Original Message -----
From: jzall
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] MIS VM black with UT2 'color'?
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Jim,
>
> >I'm about to transition my 1270 from VM inks to UT2. I'm wondering if
> >the VM black is compatible with the UT2 'color' carts. ...
>
> I have not tried it, but I don't think there is a serious compatibility
> issue. It may through some curves off a little, but probably not
> significantly. The Eboni black has a better dmax on EEM and is much
more
> lightfast. When you run out of VM K and if you switch to Eboni
> (recommended), rinse the pads before putting in Eboni to get the
dyes off
> them.
Thanks, Paul. I thought that the black in the VM carts *is* Eboni. MIS
had a notice on their web site many months ago (can't find it now)
that they were using Eboni in place of the previous black because it
was so much better.
I'll also second the request for instructions on pad-rinsing.
Thanks for your help.
Jim
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