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2004-03-03 by edrudolpho
A poster at Dpreview.com was complaining about a magenta cast to his B&W prints using the new Epson profiles. Can anyone verify that the new profiles actually permit true BO printing? thanks, Ed
2004-03-03 by Steve Kale
Ed You do not use a profile when doing BO printing. ICC profiles are used for a colour managed workflow (be that colour or greyscale images). BO printing uses a Same as Source workflow ie you deliver the printer a gray gamma 2.2 file (or whatever your workspace is). You are not tagging the file with a specific printer/media ICC profile. The reason he is getting a magenta cast is because of the age old problem of the Epson driver using colour inks unsuccessfully to create greyscale. BO avoids this completely by only using the one ink black and simply using the spacing of the dots to create shades of grey. Steve
From: "edrudolpho" <erudolph@pacbell.net> Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 15:26:50 -0000 To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] BO on 2200 with new Epson profiles A poster at Dpreview.com was complaining about a magenta cast to his B&W prints using the new Epson profiles. Can anyone verify that the new profiles actually permit true BO printing? thanks, Ed Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ * * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: * DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Uns ubscribe> * * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-03-03 by edrudolpho
thanks, steve :-) i believe i had muddled the concept of profile and driver... ed --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale <stevekale@b...> wrote: > Ed > > You do not use a profile when doing BO printing. ICC profiles are used for > a colour managed workflow (be that colour or greyscale images). BO printing > uses a Same as Source workflow - ie you deliver the printer a gray gamma 2.2 > file (or whatever your workspace is). You are not tagging the file with a > specific printer/media ICC profile. The reason he is getting a magenta cast > is because of the age old problem of the Epson driver using colour inks > unsuccessfully to create greyscale. BO avoids this completely by only using > the one ink - black - and simply using the spacing of the dots to create > shades of grey. > > Steve > > > From: "edrudolpho" <erudolph@p...> > Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 15:26:50 -0000 > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] BO on 2200 with new Epson profiles > > A poster at Dpreview.com was complaining about a magenta cast to his B&W > prints > using the new Epson profiles. Can anyone verify that the new profiles > actually permit > true BO printing? > > thanks, Ed > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and > Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/file s/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, > GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE > POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY > TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR > ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY > THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > * http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > * > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > * DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogrou ps.com?subject=Uns > ubscribe> > * > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service
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