Digital BW, The Print

Has anyone had experience printing on Hawk Mountain's Goshawk paper. 
I'd appreciate any comments.

                       John Harvey

Very similar to Osprey.  Some sign of ink mottling in dark blacks (like
Osprey and Red River Aurora) when I print with Piezo.  Final Piezo prints
are not water resistant, unlike almost every other paper. I believe that it
is the same coating as Osprey, but on a machine made paper.  Diane from Hawk
mountain can tell you for sure.

Robert

On 10/14/01 10:37 PM, "jharvey@..." <jharvey@...> wrote:

> Has anyone had experience printing on Hawk Mountain's Goshawk paper.
> I'd appreciate any comments.
> 
>                      John Harvey
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Robert Morrison
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310-397-2704

4131 Bledsoe Ave.
Los Angeles, CA 90066

Goshawk is same base paper (15 mil, 100% cotton, acid free, bright white,
mouldmade) as Osprey, Peregrine, Aerie, & Talon. Coating was same
formulation, just applied in different manner. Goshawk has been discontinued
as we have improved technique since then. Goshawk printed bright colors
slightly better than Osprey, but Osprey printed better black. We still have
some sheet stock available, but when that is gone, Goshawk is extinct <G>.

Yes, inkjet receptive coatings can have calcium carbonate, silica, gelatin,
starch, PVA, clay, plus a myriad of other chemicals. George had replied
about coatings on the 9000 list, I believe, as he does not subscribe to this
or the leben list. We make 2 coatings at present (Osprey & Merlin). Not sure
what in the Osprey coating makes it not waterproof. Will have to check that
out. We formulated our coatings to work well with pigment based inks to
provide the best color gamut and longevity possible. We don't market our
papers as waterproof or for outdoor applications. And we are working on new
papers and coatings all the time.

Diana York
Hawk Mountain Art Papers www.hawkmtnartpapers.com
100% cotton digital fine art inkjet print papers

----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Morrison <rmorrison@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 1:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Goshawk by Hawk Mountain


> Very similar to Osprey.  Some sign of ink mottling in dark blacks (like
> Osprey and Red River Aurora) when I print with Piezo.  Final Piezo prints
> are not water resistant, unlike almost every other paper. I believe that
it
> is the same coating as Osprey, but on a machine made paper.  Diane from
Hawk

> mountain can tell you for sure.
>
> Robert
>
> On 10/14/01 10:37 PM, "jharvey@..." <jharvey@...> wrote:
>
> > Has anyone had experience printing on Hawk Mountain's Goshawk paper.
> > I'd appreciate any comments.
> >
> >                      John Harvey

On 10/14/01 11:47 PM, "Diana York / Hawk Meadow Morgans"
<diana@...> wrote:

> Not sure
> what in the Osprey coating makes it not waterproof. Will have to check that
> out. We formulated our coatings to work well with pigment based inks to
> provide the best color gamut and longevity possible. We don't market our
> papers as waterproof or for outdoor applications. And we are working on new
> papers and coatings all the time.

I believe that the problem results from ink not being completely absorbed
into the paper...probably due to the coating.  When I look at an Osprey
print made with PiezoBW I see what looks like an oil slick in the dense
black regions even after several days of drying.  When these areas are hit
with water the ink bleeds.  Osprey, Peregrine and Red River's Aurora are the
only papers with which I've observed this.  Merlin doesn't do this...but the
blacks are really weak with PiezoBW...HOWEVER...this paper has not been
profiled...so who knows what the blacks could be.

Robert