Digital BW, The Print

Don't go for Epson 3000. It is a bad printer. Paper feed does not work 
properly. It is very slow. It is constructed for dyes, not for pigments, so it clogs 
with pigment inks.


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In a message dated 5/7/2004 9:18:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
AWStolzing@... writes:

> Don't go for Epson 3000. It is a bad printer. Paper feed does not work 
> properly. It is very slow. It is constructed for dyes, not for pigments, so 
> it clogs 
> with pigment inks.
> 
The original poster is using a 1520 So I would say the 3000 is equal to that 
mechanically. I have used two with Piezography Pigments, Sundance and 
Piezotones and even MIS color Pigments, no clogging problems at all. I have even left 
them unsused for 6 months and One cleaning cycle and there ready to go. Others 
 do have clooggging problems but no more than any other printer.I also use 
the 9000 carts, so 220ml of ink is bigger than the CIS systems people use with a 
1280 and such. Hundreds of prints from these carts.
I ran hundreds of prints on 310gsm paper before the paper feed begain to 
skew. The problem with the thick paper is that the image will not print square. 
14inches at the top might be 13 7/8 at the bottom. Not noticable until you go to 
matt the image, then things get wierd. So I would say 225gsm is the limit, So 
the thinner Photorag or william Turner should be fine. Definately a budget 
way to produce fine 16x20's. With the Piezography plug in your looking at 1 hour 
15 min per print, At the highest quality setting, this is the newer sttting 
that eliminated banding on most marginal printers.  Thats the only reason(slow) 
I stopped using them.
There was a reference on this list to Tyler Boleys 50 Print Seattle display,  
These where 90% or more done on a 3000. So its capable of A++++ quality. 
If your patient and don't want to spend much, I don't see much risk unless 
you must have the thick papers.
And for the original poster:  Even though the 1520 takes 17inch paper you can 
only print to 13inches, Not the case on the 3000! It will go 16.25 I believe.
Steve M.


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Maybe the printer needs an adjustment for the paper feed.
I have a copy of the service manual if you're interested, it gives detailed
instructions on all of the adjustments including paper feed and setting the
platen gap for correct thickness, which sounds like the issue.

Let me know and I can send you a copy if you like.

Glenn
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Thomas Keesling" <tom.keesling@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 12:54 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] Epson 3000 for Piezography -- paper thickness, etc


> Arthur,
>
> I've never been able to get the Hahnemuhle 308 to feed properly through my
> Epson 3000. I can get it started and it will print, but the image isn't
> printed accurately--it prints short in the paper feed dimension and is
> sometimes longer on one side than the other. The Crane Museo (225 gsm, I
> think) usually does OK, but it's a bit of a challenge as well. The
> Hahnemuhle 188 and 196 work just fine.
>
> As far as AWStolzing@... comments re the 3000. I disagree for the most
> part. I've used Mediastreet Generations pigment inks in mine for 2-3 years
> without any significant clogging problems. The paper feed mechanism is
> somewhat finicky and the newer models are much improved in this regard,
but
> it's still a great printer for many purposes.
>
> Tom Keesling
> Intelligent Design, Inc.
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