Digital BW, The Print

I just put "cool" and "medium warm" curves for PhotoRag and UT2 on my web
page.

 

The PhotoRag curves appear to work well for the other Hahnemuhle fine art
papers I've tested (German Etching, Torchon, and Albrecht Durer).

 

Paul

www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>  

 

For UT2 & UT7 information, curves, and settings see:

http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/ 



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Paul--

have you tested any of the hawk mtn papers? Its seems some said 
that it prints with similar curves to the Hahnamuhle papers.

-matt


--
Matt Haber
dance, portrait and fashion photography
http://www.matthaber.com

Awesome Paul!!!

I have been waiting for a "cool" curve for this combo
since I first got my 1280 and the UT2 CFS setup!

Thanks!

--- Paul Roark <paul.roark@...> wrote:
> I just put "cool" and "medium warm" curves for
> PhotoRag and UT2 on my web
> page.
> 
>  
> 
> The PhotoRag curves appear to work well for the
> other Hahnemuhle fine art
> papers I've tested (German Etching, Torchon, and
> Albrecht Durer).
> 
>  
> 
> Paul
> 
> www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>  
> 
>  
> 
> For UT2 & UT7 information, curves, and settings see:
> 
> http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/ 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> 
> 



	
		
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Paul-

I tried to download the new curve from your site, but
was given a message that said "LOCKED The requested
resource is currently locked. The lock must be
released or proper identification given before the
method can be applied."



--- Paul Roark <paul.roark@...> wrote:
> I just put "cool" and "medium warm" curves for
> PhotoRag and UT2 on my web
> page.
> 
>  
> 
> The PhotoRag curves appear to work well for the
> other Hahnemuhle fine art
> papers I've tested (German Etching, Torchon, and
> Albrecht Durer).
> 
>  
> 
> Paul
> 
> www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>  
> 
>  
> 
> For UT2 & UT7 information, curves, and settings see:
> 
> http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/ 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> 
> 



	
		
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Max,

My website was locking me out last night also.  When I waited a few minutes
it worked fine.  There is some intermittent problem, but I don't know what
it is.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

For UT2 & UT7 information, curves, and settings see:
http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/
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-----Original Message-----
From: Max Clark [mailto:bad2maxxx@...] 
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 6:47 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] New UT2 curves for PhotoRag and other H. papers

Paul-

I tried to download the new curve from your site, but
was given a message that said "LOCKED The requested
resource is currently locked. The lock must be
released or proper identification given before the
method can be applied."



--- Paul Roark <paul.roark@...> wrote:
> I just put "cool" and "medium warm" curves for
> PhotoRag and UT2 on my web
> page.
> 
>  
> 
> The PhotoRag curves appear to work well for the
> other Hahnemuhle fine art
> papers I've tested (German Etching, Torchon, and
> Albrecht Durer).
> 
>  
> 
> Paul
> 
> www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>  
> 
>  
> 
> For UT2 & UT7 information, curves, and settings see:
> 
> http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/ 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> 
> 



	
		
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Matt,

>have you tested any of the hawk mtn papers? Its seems some said 
>that it prints with similar curves to the Hahnamuhle papers.

I have some very small samples that I just printed.  They look OK with the
PhotoRag curves I tried, but the coatings are clearly different.  I don't
have enough of the paper to see what profile would be best for them.

Truth is, with the UT2 & UT7 systems, most matte papers do OK with most of
the curves.  It appears to have been the radical partitioning curves in the
older quad setups that really made a mess of the ramp when paper
characteristics varied a bit.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

For UT2 & UT7 information, curves, and settings see:
http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/

Paul - I had trouble trying to download the PR curves.  When I clicked on
one of the curves, I got a new page with this on it:


ÿÿ    DZ&e3j?¹¿¿ÿÿ    &3+?·Í¿ÿÿlµ&Ú3©£@ÿLÿÿ


???


Stephen Petegorsky

My ISP is clearly doing some weird stuff.  I just tried the curves, and they
appeared to be OK.  I think whatever is happening is intermittent.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

For UT2 & UT7 information, curves, and settings see:
http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/
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-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Petegorsky [mailto:petegorsky@...] 
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 4:37 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] New UT2 curves for PhotoRag and other H. papers

Paul - I had trouble trying to download the PR curves.  When I clicked on
one of the curves, I got a new page with this on it:


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???


Stephen Petegorsky




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Stephen, try this: either Right-Click or, if you have a Mac, Control-Click =
on the link.  
You should then see a menu with options.  choose the one that is closest to=
 
Download This To Disk.  As you found, simply clicking on the link doesn't a=
ctually 
download it.  Hope this helps :-)

Ed Rudolph

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> My ISP is clearly doing some weird stuff.  I just tried the curves, and t=
hey
> appeared to be OK.  I think whatever is happening is intermittent.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> 
> For UT2 & UT7 information, curves, and settings see:
> http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/
> ______________
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Petegorsky [mailto:petegorsky@e...] 
> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 4:37 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] New UT2 curves for PhotoRag and other H. papers=

> 
> Paul - I had trouble trying to download the PR curves.  When I clicked on=

> one of the curves, I got a new page with this on it:
> 
> 
> ÿÿ    DZ&e3j?¹¿¿ÿÿ    &3+?·Í¿ÿÿlµ&Ú3©£@ÿLÿÿ
> 
> 
> ???
> 
> 
> Stephen Petegorsky
> 
> 
> 
> 
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s
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I'm new to the MIS system with curves and such. I'm trying to 
download a curve from P. Roark's site and my browser (IE 6.0) is 
saving the file ("Save target as.." method) as a .htm file. How do I 
download it as an .acv (PS curve) file? Or do I need to somehow 
convert it after download?

>Stephen, try this: either Right-Click or, if you have a Mac, Control-Click =

>on the link.   You should then see a menu with options.  choose the one that
>is closest to=
 
>Download This To Disk.  As you found, simply clicking on the link doesn't
>actually 
>download it.  Hope this helps :-)
 >Ed Rudolph

Ed - I tried that, but all it did was to give me an Internet Explorer text
page on my desktop with the same heiroglyphics in it!  I'm on a Mac, for
what it's worth...

SP

> >Download This To Disk.  As you found, simply clicking on the link doesn't

> Ed - I tried that, but all it did was to give me an Internet Explorer text
> page on my desktop with the same heiroglyphics in it!  I'm on a Mac, for
> what it's worth...
> 
> SP

Steve,

Download the files to desktop and change ".html" to ".acv" That will make them Photoshop 
curves.

The problem is probalbly a server mime type confusion - which can be fixed. The server 
doesn't know what to do with ".acv" files so it just loads them as an html page.

>...and change ".html" to ".acv" That will make them Photoshop 
> curves.


How do you do that? When I try to "save as..." I am not given .acv 
as a possible file type. Using Windows.

<SandyCornelius@c...> wrote:
> >...and change ".html" to ".acv" That will make them Photoshop 
> > curves.

> How do you do that? When I try to "save as..." I am not given .acv 
> as a possible file type. Using Windows.

I'm on a Mac so I just highlight the file title and change it. Not sure about Windows...sorry!

I've tried to clarify the instructions on my web page for downloading the
UT2 curves.  It now reads:

To download UT2 curves, RIGHT click on the name of the curve.  Then click
"Save Target As ...." Your browser will probably show the file as an *.htm
file, CHANGE THE FILE EXTENSION to *.acv by deleting the "htm" and typing in
"acv."  Also, in the "Save as type" box below the file name change to "All
Files" by hitting the down arrow at the right. ... 

I use PC with XP OS.  It sounds like the Mac situation is essentially the
same as what I see.

Hope this helps.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

For UT2 & UT7 information, curves, and settings see:
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_____________________

-----Original Message-----
From: John Vitollo [mailto:jvlist@...] 
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 8:15 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] New UT2 curves for PhotoRag and other H. papers

<SandyCornelius@c...> wrote:
> >...and change ".html" to ".acv" That will make them Photoshop 
> > curves.

> How do you do that? When I try to "save as..." I am not given .acv 
> as a possible file type. Using Windows.

I'm on a Mac so I just highlight the file title and change it. Not sure
about Windows...sorry!




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Thanks, John, Paul and Ed for your suggestions; I've finally been able to
download the curves as .acv files.  Now the question is:  Where do I put
them?  I'm using PS 7 and OS 9.1 on a Mac.

Thanks again,
Stephen Petegorsky

Stephen,

>I've finally been able to download the curves as .acv files.  
>Now the question is:  Where do I put them?  

Photoshop looks first in the Photoshop folder.  Once you've opened a curve,
it'll go back to that folder.  I recommend a separate folder for each
printer's curves.  This can be anyplace, but the Photoshop folder is one
obvious place for the new folder if Photoshop is all you use.  

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

For UT2 & UT7 information, curves, and settings see:
http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/

Paul - Thanks once again for your patience and generosity in helping us all
with this stuff!