Digital BW, The Print

This past weekend I tried the curves and workflow created by Paul 
Roark found on the MIS website for the UT-FSN inkset on an 1160.

I found the result quite terrible and the instructions confusing, so 
apparently I'm not doing something correctly.

I was using EEM setting my color space to Adobe 1998 and found that 1 
curve gave extremely posterized results, and two other curves 
lightened the print way too much and dark tones looked as though 
there was a veil over those areas.

By comparison when using the R9/Cone driver and the John Wolfe work 
flow results are much better, Wolfe's workflow produced the best 
print by far, WYSIWYG in fact and I'm using a calibrated and profiled 
monitor.

Have other people using the Roark curves, etc. with UT-FSN 
experienced the same results?

Thanks,

Don Bryant

Don:

Don't know about the UT-FSN, but I'm using U2s with a 1280 and the 
prints are very, very good. Assuming that you know to change back to 
RGB before you print, right.

You might share your work flow. Your making sure that your printing 
in color and no color management right?

Jeff

I used to use John Woolf's workflow with old FSN-E in my 1280 and
found to to yeild great prints and was very very easy to use.  I
corresponded with John a few months ago and he unfortunately has no
interest in updating it for the new inks. 

I've got great admiration for Paul Roark and everything he's done. 
But if the Wolfe workflow works, why not just stick with it? 

Bob Michaels


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "donbga"
<dstevenbryant@m...> wrote:

> This past weekend I tried the curves and workflow created by Paul 
> Roark found on the MIS website for the UT-FSN inkset on an 1160.
> 
> I found the result quite terrible and the instructions confusing, so 
> apparently I'm not doing something correctly.
> 
> I was using EEM setting my color space to Adobe 1998 and found that 1 
> curve gave extremely posterized results, and two other curves 
> lightened the print way too much and dark tones looked as though 
> there was a veil over those areas.
> 
> By comparison when using the R9/Cone driver and the John Wolfe work 
> flow results are much better, Wolfe's workflow produced the best 
> print by far, WYSIWYG in fact and I'm using a calibrated and profiled 
> monitor.
> 
> Have other people using the Roark curves, etc. with UT-FSN 
> experienced the same results?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Don Bryant

Hi Don,

I'm using both FS and FSN on my 1160s and I love the results. Right 
at the moment I'm printing FSN Photo Black and FS Eboni Black. The 
best looking results with the Photo Black is with the Ilford Smooth 
Pearl paper though I found various Hawk Mountain micro ceramic glossy 
also works well with it. But I definitely like the matte (and coated) 
prints better.

--nick

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jeffleeg8" 
<jeff120749@n...> wrote:
> Don:
> 
> Don't know about the UT-FSN, but I'm using U2s with a 1280 and the 
> prints are very, very good. Assuming that you know to change back 
to 

> RGB before you print, right.
> 
> You might share your work flow. Your making sure that your printing 
> in color and no color management right?
> 
> Jeff

Jeff,
> Assuming that you know to change back to 
> RGB before you print, right.
> 

Yes.

> and no color management right?
> 

I'll check that to be certain, the workflow is what is described in 
the download from MIS.

Thanks,

Don

Nick,
> I'm using both FS and FSN on my 1160s and I love the results. Right 
> at the moment I'm printing FSN Photo Black and FS Eboni Black. The 
> best looking results with the Photo Black is with the Ilford Smooth 
> Pearl paper though I found various Hawk Mountain micro ceramic 
glossy 
> also works well with it. But I definitely like the matte (and 
coated) 
> prints better.

Yeah I wish I could switch easily from Eboni to Photo K, Right now 
I've got only one 1160 and don't have room for another printer in my 
life.

Thanks,

Don

Hi:

When I called MIS, the tech told me to use the profiles setting in 
the epson driver, if you do that you use the profiles changes  
twice, and thus very bad output. Check no color management in the 
Epson print driver, and it should work. I knew this from previous 
pigment ink use.

Jeff