Digital BW, The Print

Has anybody used/bought/have thoughts on the HP Designjet 130 24"wide 
printer?
I just saw ads for it yesterday.

Thanks

Jules

Jules:

I was at a photography workshop in Carmel about 2 weeks ago and photographer Charles 
Cramer had one there.  He likes it very much with one exception - the technology HP uses 
for advancing the paper leaves a trail of parallel roller marks in the paper.  Not obvious 
when you just look at a print but if you turn it slightly, there they are.  HP are aware of this 
and supposedly working on it.  Cramer said this occured in both 130's that he used.  The 
printer itself is not built like a truck,  which you wouldn't expect based on the low price.  
How it will hold up is anyone's guess.  Cramer did some beauttiful prints with it and what 
he marvels at are the blacks.  His claim is Ultrachrome has an L* of 10, LightJet an L* of 
about 5 and the 130 inks an L* of 2.  I must confess looking at 2 prints, one using 
Ultrachrome and one using the HP 130 inks, made it very apparent the blacks were much 
more punchy and black in the HP print.  If they can get things fixed AND you can live with 
the slim paper choice it might be a good one.

Angelo


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "lulalake_1999" 
<lulalake_1999@y...> wrote:

> Has anybody used/bought/have thoughts on the HP Designjet 130 24"wide 
> printer?
> I just saw ads for it yesterday.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jules

Thanks Angelo,

I'm reminded of the nasty tracks that the Epson 3000 makes.

I think I'll wait a bit and see if HP gets a fix or a workaround 
before I invest 2 grand in printer, rips etc. I wonder about the 
metamerism issue with the 130? I guess we'll just have to wait a 
while for more results come in.

Cheers

Jules




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "acmdude" 
<acmdude@b...> wrote:
> Jules:
> 
> I was at a photography workshop in Carmel about 2 weeks ago and 
photographer Charles 
> Cramer had one there.  He likes it very much with one exception - 
the technology HP uses 
> for advancing the paper leaves a trail of parallel roller marks in 
the paper.  Not obvious 
> when you just look at a print but if you turn it slightly, there 
they are.  HP are aware of this 
> and supposedly working on it.  Cramer said this occured in both 
130's that he used.  The 
> printer itself is not built like a truck,  which you wouldn't 
expect based on the low price.  
> How it will hold up is anyone's guess.  Cramer did some beauttiful 
prints with it and what 
> he marvels at are the blacks.  His claim is Ultrachrome has an L* 
of 10, LightJet an L* of 
> about 5 and the 130 inks an L* of 2.  I must confess looking at 2 
prints, one using 
> Ultrachrome and one using the HP 130 inks, made it very apparent 
the blacks were much 
> more punchy and black in the HP print.  If they can get things 
fixed AND you can live with 
> the slim paper choice it might be a good one.
> 
> Angelo
> 
> 
> --- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "lulalake_1999" 
> <lulalake_1999@y...> wrote:
> > Has anybody used/bought/have thoughts on the HP Designjet 130 
24"wide 

> > printer?
> > I just saw ads for it yesterday.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Jules

I saw one at a trade show and the salesperson insisted the matamerism I 
was seeing was not matamerism. HP must be "preaching to the choir" of 
salespeople.
Mark

On Jul 2, 2004, at 1:00 PM, lulalake_1999 wrote:

> I wonder about the
>  metamerism issue with the 130?

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