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printing B&W with UC inks, report

2004-07-02 by daniel

i got some very useful advice on printing black and white with standard epson UC inks
from this forum, so i thought that in case anyone was interested, i'd summarize my
experience. (my printer, btw, is an epson 2200.)

1. the problem. my concern was more the presence of subtle colour crossovers than
metamerism. it was noticeable only in large areas of midtones, but the effect was very
irritating. in a portrait, for example, i would see feint bands of colour across the forehead,
of magenta and then greeny blue.

2. remote profiling. the first thing i tried was to get a custom profile of my printer. i used
dry creek photo (http://www.drycreekphoto.com/). they did an excellent job, and i got my
profiles by email a few days after i sent in the profiling targets. ethan hansen, who runs
DCP, was very helpful in answering questions. the new profiles are indeed different from
the standard (new) epson ones, and they produce much better black and white prints. in
particular, the tone is much more neutral. the colour crossover was still there, though, but
to a lesser extent. using photoshop quadtones, i've got some nice prints by this method,
although the prints that have the crossover still look bad to me.

3. quadtone rip. phil rose recommended roy harrington's QTR (http://harrington.com/
QuadToneRIP.html) to me -- thank you phil! it's a RIP for linux and OS X, and uses the
gimp-print drivers in place of the epson drivers. the results are fantastic: no colour
crossover at all, much better detail in the shadows, and better dmax (at least it seems to
me, but perhaps i'm imagining it -- haven't measured it). the different tone options are
very nice; the selenium is a bit too blue though. i've had two problems with this. first, the
gimp drivers are a bit fragile, and i find myself often having to clear the print spooler,
delete and rerun jobs, etc. also, they don't seem to support manual feed, so i can't print
on heavier stock (such as velvet fine art). it's a pity, because QTR itself is very impressive.

so i'm now considering trying MIS ultratone-7 inks. they seem to be much more affordable
than piezography inks, and are highly regarded.

/daniel

Re: [Digital BW] printing B&W with UC inks, report

2004-07-02 by Steve Kale

Daniel

You shouldn¹t have any problems with the manual feed.  You don¹t need to
select anything in the driver.  Simply load the paper from the rear of the
2200 as instructed (lever down, feed 1cm past rollers, lever up to envelope,
press the paper feed button so that the print head can align with the paper)
then send the print job.  I also don¹t have any problems with the print
spooler (run Printer Setup Repair).

Cheers

Steve

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From: "daniel" <dnjbackup@...>
Reply-To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 14:12:46 -0000
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] printing B&W with UC inks, report

i got some very useful advice on printing black and white with standard
epson UC inks 
from this forum, so i thought that in case anyone was interested, i'd
summarize my 
experience. (my printer, btw, is an epson 2200.)

1. the problem. my concern was more the presence of subtle colour crossovers
than 
metamerism. it was noticeable only in large areas of midtones, but the
effect was very 
irritating. in a portrait, for example, i would see feint bands of colour
across the forehead,
of magenta and then greeny blue.

2. remote profiling. the first thing i tried was to get a custom profile of
my printer. i used 
dry creek photo (http://www.drycreekphoto.com/). they did an excellent job,
and i got my 
profiles by email a few days after i sent in the profiling targets. ethan
hansen, who runs 
DCP, was very helpful in answering questions. the new profiles are indeed
different from 
the standard (new) epson ones, and they produce much better black and white
prints. in 
particular, the tone is much more neutral. the colour crossover was still
there, though, but 
to a lesser extent. using photoshop quadtones, i've got some nice prints by
this method, 
although the prints that have the crossover still look bad to me.

3. quadtone rip. phil rose recommended roy harrington's QTR
(http://harrington.com/
QuadToneRIP.html) to me -- thank you phil! it's a RIP for linux and OS X,
and uses the 
gimp-print drivers in place of the epson drivers. the results are fantastic:
no colour 
crossover at all, much better detail in the shadows, and better dmax (at
least it seems to 
me, but perhaps i'm imagining it -- haven't measured it). the different tone
options are 
very nice; the selenium is a bit too blue though.  i've had two problems
with this. first, the
gimp drivers are a bit fragile, and i find myself often having to clear the
print spooler, 
delete and rerun jobs, etc. also, they don't seem to support manual feed, so
i can't print 
on heavier stock (such as velvet fine art). it's a pity, because QTR itself
is very impressive.

so i'm now considering trying MIS ultratone-7 inks. they seem to be much
more affordable 
than piezography inks, and are highly regarded.

/daniel

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