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2004-08-15 by Carl Schofield
Some beautiful B&W images of the Endurance crater dunes came down today at the exploratorium and JPL web sites. Some of these could easily pass as "fine art" landscape images and it is incredible to think that they were taken by a robot on Mars with a 1 MP digital camera. Here is an example: http://tinyurl.com/5enp5 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-08-15 by Mark Savoia
They should rename the rover Ansel. Mark On Aug 15, 2004, at 4:44 PM, Carl Schofield wrote: > Some beautiful B&W images of the Endurance crater dunes came down today > at the exploratorium and JPL web sites.� Some of these could easily > pass as "fine art" landscape images and it is incredible to think that > they were taken by a robot on Mars with a 1 MP digital camera.� Here > is > an example: > http://tinyurl.com/5enp5 > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from > the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > Owner and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� in the > Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE �OWNER� > AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE� �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > <image.tiff> > <image.tiff> > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > � To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > � > � To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > � > � Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-08-16 by Paul D. DeRocco
> From: Carl Schofield [mailto:scho@...] > > Some beautiful B&W images of the Endurance crater dunes came down today > at the exploratorium and JPL web sites. Some of these could easily > pass as "fine art" landscape images and it is incredible to think that > they were taken by a robot on Mars with a 1 MP digital camera. Here is > an example: > http://tinyurl.com/5enp5 Great shot. But 1 MP? I guess they didn't have any money left over for a real camera, after they built the rest of the rocket. -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paul mailto:pderocco@...
2004-08-16 by Joe Davajon
Carl S., Where can I find additional pictures of Mars? Joe ===== Drop by my site at <davajon.net>
2004-08-16 by Joe Davajon
--- "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@...> wrote: --------------------------------- > From: Carl Schofield [mailto:scho@...] > > Some beautiful B&W images of the Endurance crater dunes came down today > at the exploratorium and JPL web sites. Some of these could easily > pass as "fine art" landscape images and it is incredible to think that > they were taken by a robot on Mars with a 1 MP digital camera. Here is > an example: > http://tinyurl.com/5enp5 Great shot. But 1 MP? I guess they didn't have any money left over for a real camera, after they built the rest of the rocket. -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paul mailto:pderocco@... Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See \ufffdGroup Topic, Rules and Guidelines\ufffd in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE \ufffdOWNER\ufffd AND \ufffdMODERATORS\ufffd OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE \ufffdOWNER\ufffd AND \ufffdMODERATORS\ufffd OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ===== Drop by my site at <davajon.net>
2004-08-16 by B. Campbell
> Some beautiful B&W images of the Endurance crater dunes came down today > at the exploratorium and JPL web sites. Some of these could easily > pass as "fine art" landscape images . . . . They should have cropped it about one inch up from the bottom, burned some of the shadow areas, and dodged the highlights in the center.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 10:59 PM Subject: RE: [Digital BW] OT: B&W landscapes from Mars > From: Carl Schofield [mailto:scho@...] > > Some beautiful B&W images of the Endurance crater dunes came down today > at the exploratorium and JPL web sites. Some of these could easily > pass as "fine art" landscape images and it is incredible to think that > they were taken by a robot on Mars with a 1 MP digital camera. Here is > an example: > http://tinyurl.com/5enp5 Great shot. But 1 MP? I guess they didn't have any money left over for a real camera, after they built the rest of the rocket. -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paul mailto:pderocco@... Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
2004-08-16 by Carl Schofield
Paul, Only 1 MP, but impressive specs. Thought you might want to see attached Pancam specs. Carl ---------- On Sunday, August 15, 2004, at 10:59 PM, Paul D. DeRocco wrote: >> From: Carl Schofield [mailto:scho@...] >> >> Some beautiful B&W images of the Endurance crater dunes came down >> today >> at the exploratorium and JPL web sites. Some of these could easily >> pass as "fine art" landscape images and it is incredible to think that >> they were taken by a robot on Mars with a 1 MP digital camera. Here >> is >> an example: >> http://tinyurl.com/5enp5 > > Great shot. But 1 MP? I guess they didn't have any money left over for > a > real camera, after they built the rest of the rocket. > > -- > > Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco > Paul mailto:pderocco@... > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-08-16 by Carl Schofield
Sorry, I meant to send this off-list.
On Monday, August 16, 2004, at 04:28 PM, Carl Schofield wrote: > Paul, > > Only 1 MP, but impressive specs. Thought you might want to see > attached Pancam specs. > > Carl > > ---------- >
2004-08-21 by Douglas Meeuwsen
Quick question....is it normal for Velvet fine art to print a bit lighter than say Ilford radiant white, or H. german etching, or museo?....all my papers print very clos eto the same on my 1280, with Mis UT2 inks, except for velvert fine art which is lighter in the darkest areas. I have read that VFA has good Dmax, so I am wondering which way to approach it. May an incerase in contrast, or just a darkening of the print?. Trying to conserve paper cuz i dont have much of it.....thanks, DM
2004-08-22 by Antonis
The Epson Velvet FA has one of the top dmax numbers with UC: It hits 1.74 on the 2200/MK when Photo Rag only gets 1.63 or so. However, on the 1280 with Ebony, both get the same number. The above numbers are for BO printing and were tested with OPM. For the reccord, the Epson driver set to Matte Heavyweight may produce slightly darker black at 720dpi. Tones other than 100% black are a matter of profile, not paper (except for white). If you have a profile for this paper, it should match any of the other papers as long as they are similarly profiled. Antonis --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Douglas Meeuwsen <lipshurt@m...> wrote:
> > Quick question....is it normal for Velvet fine art to print a bit > lighter than say Ilford radiant white, or H. german etching, or > museo?....all my papers print very clos eto the same on my 1280, with > Mis UT2 inks, except for velvert fine art which is lighter in the > darkest areas. I have read that VFA has good Dmax, so I am wondering > which way to approach it. May an incerase in contrast, or just a > darkening of the print?. Trying to conserve paper cuz i dont have much > of it.....thanks, DM