Digital BW, The Print

Hello, 
can someone one this list please tell me if a UT inkset for the Stylus
4000 is planned or already being developped?

THanks for a short answer.

regards, Bernie

I will be modifying the UT7 inkset for the 4000.  I have initially called it
the UT8 inkset.  I have not schedule (or 4000) yet, however.  (Rumor has it
there will be a second release of the 4000.)

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com
_____________________

-----Original Message-----
From: Bernie Ess [mailto:albatros-@...] 
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 3:17 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] UT inks and CFS for Epson 4000?

Hello, 
can someone one this list please tell me if a UT inkset for the Stylus
4000 is planned or already being developped?

THanks for a short answer.

regards, Bernie




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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
>I have not schedule (or 4000) yet, however.  (Rumor has it
> there will be a second release of the 4000.)

Hmmm, I always found that since its release and apart from some
initial "first look" reviews there has been silence around this
printer - relatively to the success it should have been. Is there
something wrong with it? But maybe I am just too far away from where
the discussions are really going on...

Anyway, having got an MF camera I would like to print bigger than
11x14,  and the 7600 is too big and too expensive for me, so the 4000
would be the right size...

regards, Bernie

> 
> Hmmm, I always found that since its release and apart from some
> initial "first look" reviews there has been silence around this
> printer - relatively to the success it should have been. Is there
> something wrong with it? But maybe I am just too far away from 
where
> the discussions are really going on...
> 
> Anyway, having got an MF camera I would like to print bigger than
> 11x14,  and the 7600 is too big and too expensive for me, so the 
4000 would be the right size...

Bernie,

I shoot 35 and 645 film and have migrated from the 1160 to the 
4000.  The 4000 is as good as the reviews say.  My color prints have 
been beautiful and after some struggle I am getting really good B&W 
with the Ultrachrome inkset and small gamut profiles.  These 
profiles use light cyan and light magenta in the highlight values 
and with a loup look so much better than the results I was getting 
with Epson Gray Balancer.  They are designed specifically for B&W.  
The author is Eric Bullock who is active in the Epson large format 
group.  There was a link here to butzi.net/articles/toning (I think 
that's right) which has a series of excellent toning curves.  QTR 
will soon be 4000 ready which will really make the 4000 a B&W tool 
for everyone. 

Andrew

Wasn't there supposed to be an Epson Stylus Pro 4000-C4, four colour
unit that would have been great for b&w printing?

Cheers,
Andre


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> I will be modifying the UT7 inkset for the 4000.  I have initially
called it
> the UT8 inkset.  I have not schedule (or 4000) yet, however.  (Rumor
has it

> there will be a second release of the 4000.)
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com

Andre,

>Wasn't there supposed to be an Epson Stylus Pro 4000-C4, 
>four colour unit that would have been great for b&w printing?

I don't know.  The rumor I heard related to firmware and paper feed issues.
And, it was just a rumor -- not from Epson.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

____________________________-


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> I will be modifying the UT7 inkset for the 4000.  I have initially
called it
> the UT8 inkset.  I have not schedule (or 4000) yet, however.  (Rumor
has it
> there will be a second release of the 4000.)
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com





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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> I will be modifying the UT7 inkset for the 4000.  I have initially called it
> the UT8 inkset.  I have not schedule (or 4000) yet, however.  (Rumor has it
> there will be a second release of the 4000.)
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com

I guess the rumor was correct.  Announcement today of a "professional" version of 
the 4000 that includes a full featured RIP from Colorburst.  See this post from the 
wideformat list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EpsonWideFormat/message/49619

Has anyone used the Colorburst RIP for B&W, and if so what did you 
think of it?  Any comparisons with IP...?
Steve B 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Carl Schofield" 
<scho@m...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
> <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > I will be modifying the UT7 inkset for the 4000.  I have 
initially called it
> > the UT8 inkset.  I have not schedule (or 4000) yet, however.  
(Rumor has it
> > there will be a second release of the 4000.)
> > 
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> I guess the rumor was correct.  Announcement today of 
a "professional" version of 
> the 4000 that includes a full featured RIP from Colorburst.  See 
this post from the 
> wideformat list:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EpsonWideFormat/message/49619

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
  (Rumor has it
> there will be a second release of the 4000.)
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
> _____________________

You were right Paul. From Inkjet NEWS & Tips:

EPSON INTRODUCES NEW STYLUS PRO 4000 "PROFESSIONAL EDITION"

Earlier this week the Epson ProGraphics division announced a new
version of the Epson Stylus Pro 4000 that would become available next
month in addition to their regular 4000 model.  The Epson Stylus Pro
4000 Professional Edition (#C511001PRO) includes a ColorBurst RIP and
a 10/100 Base-T Ethernet card.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Andre" 
> You were right Paul. From Inkjet NEWS & Tips:
> 
> EPSON INTRODUCES NEW STYLUS PRO 4000 "PROFESSIONAL EDITION"
> 

However - if I understand right - the hardware stays untouched. It was
mentioned before here that there might be a "second edition" or
something like that...

Depends now how much they charge for the RIP - the 4000 version of IP
is rather expensive....

Regards, Bernie