Digital BW, The Print

So many people have been contributing to the ongoing discussion of 
converting color to B&W, I can only say thanks to you all. You've taken your time 
and given your thoughts in ways very special. Thank you again.
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From: Adolph B. Amster
email: dolph@...

Hello Adolph

I have spent some time on this issue and collected some tutorials.  Thought that I 
would pass it along to you and everyone else who is interested:

http://www.thelightsright.com/DigitalDarkroom/PDFTutorials.htm

http://www.adobe.com/tips/phs8colorbw/main.html

This is one of the best user groups...ever....jana







--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Adolph B. Amster" 
<dolph@m...> wrote:

> 	So many people have been contributing to the ongoing discussion of 
> converting color to B&W, I can only say thanks to you all. You've taken your time 
> and given your thoughts in ways very special. Thank you again.
> *********************
> From: Adolph B. Amster
> email: dolph@m...

--
Hello Adolph

I have spent some time on this issue and collected some tutorials.  Thought=
 that I
would pass it along to you and everyone else who is interested:

http://www.thelightsright.com/DigitalDarkroom/PDFTutorials.htm

http://www.adobe.com/tips/phs8colorbw/main.html

This is one of the best user groups...ever....jana

ps    first attempt to send this failed,,trying again.







- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Adolph B. Amster" 
<dolph@m...> wrote:
> 	So many people have been contributing to the ongoing discussion of 
> converting color to B&W, I can only say thanks to you all. You've taken y=
our time 

> and given your thoughts in ways very special. Thank you again.
> *********************
> From: Adolph B. Amster
> email: dolph@m...

Your first attempt was posted, Jana. I'd saved it so I could look 
your links up later, but I dug it out just to be sure i wasn't 
mis-remembering. I mean as an e-mail; as an entry to the digest list, 
I'm don't know: I don't see it.

Thanks for the links.
--
Sam


At 1:14 PM +0000 9/5/04, jana wrote:

>[snip]
>--
>Hello Adolph
>
>I have spent some time on this issue and collected some tutorials.  Thought=
>
>  that I
>would pass it along to you and everyone else who is interested:
>
>http://www.thelightsright.com/DigitalDarkroom/PDFTutorials.htm
>
>http://www.adobe.com/tips/phs8colorbw/main.html
>
>This is one of the best user groups...ever....jana
>
>ps    first attempt to send this failed,,trying again.
>
>[snip]

Hello Jana,

	Thank you very much for the suggestions. I'm sure they will prove to be very 
useful.
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From: Adolph B. Amster
email: dolph@...

Hi

If you want to see a load of comparisons of different ways to do the conversion, I've got a 
page with as many techniques as I've found at
<http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/bwfromcol.html>

If anyone has a particular favourite I've not got, please let me know and I'll add it to the 
page.

bye for now

Keith Cooper

I have four techniques I use, one is Channel Mixer, which has already
been covered, the second is masking and layering different corrections
of the same scan, the third is to make two scans, one for the light
areas and one for the darks, and then mixing them in layers using a
mask to get the best of both and, finally, make two different
exposures on two frames of film.

Since I have switched to using color negative film (Kodak Portra 160)
from transparencies, I have seldom had to resort to the latter three
methods as my film almost always has a full spectrum of color data to
work with, even when shooting in full sun or with other extremely
contrasty lighting. Under those conditions, one or more of the color
layers almost always has the data I need to assemble a nice B&W, hence
the channel mixer is my preferred techinque.

For some examples of the kind of contrasty lighting I've been shooting
see
http://www.photoartsguild.org/web/tiki-browse_gallery.php?galleryId=4
. The first 3 images are from a feed mill with full sun on the windows
and the deepest shadows elsewhere - none of those required multiple
exposures nor multiple scans, just the right combinations of channels.

Frank