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dmax for Sterling 210?

dmax for Sterling 210?

2004-10-05 by Carl Schofield

I received a promotional email about this paper from Breathing Color.  
They claim dmax greater than 2, but don't indicate which ink.  I've 
never heard of a cotton rag paper that can achieve a dmax anywhere near 
2, at least with pigment inks.  Does anyone have actual dmax numbers 
for this paper with pigment inks?  Here is the promotional text:

"Sterling 210 is a Natural White, water-resistant Smooth Photographic 
Matte Paper, made from 100% cotton rag and is acid and lignin free.  It 
is very popular amongst photographers as well as those with quality 
proofing and poster printing needs.  
 
Sterling boasts an exceptionally high DMAX of over 2.0.  Think of 
Enhanced Matte, with a much higher color gamut, DMAX, and 
achievability...for a lower cost.  It is arguably the highest 
quality OBA free photo paper in the industry today."


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Re: [Digital BW] dmax for Sterling 210?

2004-10-06 by Carl Schofield

Sorry, I forgot to look in the files where Antonis has compiled dmax 
data for several papers.  Sterling was in the range of 1.53-1.66 dmax 
with pigment inks.  So much for "exceptional" dmax claims.
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On Tuesday, October 5, 2004, at 07:31  PM, Carl Schofield wrote:

>
> I received a promotional email about this paper from Breathing Color.
> They claim dmax greater than 2, but don't indicate which ink.  I've
> never heard of a cotton rag paper that can achieve a dmax anywhere near
> 2, at least with pigment inks.  Does anyone have actual dmax numbers
> for this paper with pigment inks?  Here is the promotional text:
>
> "Sterling 210 is a Natural White, water-resistant Smooth Photographic
> Matte Paper, made from 100% cotton rag and is acid and lignin free.  It
> is very popular amongst photographers as well as those with quality
> proofing and poster printing needs.  
>  
> Sterling boasts an exceptionally high DMAX of over 2.0.  Think of
> Enhanced Matte, with a much higher color gamut, DMAX, and
> achievability...for a lower cost.  It is arguably the highest
> quality OBA free photo paper in the industry today."

Re: dmax for Sterling 210?

2004-10-08 by Antonis

Carl,

you are already one step ahead of me! I'm only posting to remind readers
 that the numbers in "dmax finder" (the spreadsheet uploaded in the Files 
section of the group homepage)  are derived from printing a scale with 
Black ink only and reading the patch with the maximum density on an 
XRite 810 set to visual density.

I mention all this to say (a) the numbers are legitimate under those
conditions and can be reproduced by others and (b) even if the absolute
value is not reached by someone else, the numbers in the spreadsheet
are valid in relation to each other. They were all derived with the same
driver settings (OPM) and densitometer.

For a lengthier explanation, and future updates, readers can look up:

http://www.graysteps.com/downloadables.htm

Antonis


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield <scho@m...> 
wrote:
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> Sorry, I forgot to look in the files where Antonis has compiled dmax 
> data for several papers.  Sterling was in the range of 1.53-1.66 dmax 
> with pigment inks.  So much for "exceptional" dmax claims.
> 
> On Tuesday, October 5, 2004, at 07:31  PM, Carl Schofield wrote:
> 
> >
> > I received a promotional email about this paper from Breathing Color.
> > They claim dmax greater than 2, but don't indicate which ink.  I've
> > never heard of a cotton rag paper that can achieve a dmax anywhere near
> > 2, at least with pigment inks.  Does anyone have actual dmax numbers
> > for this paper with pigment inks?  Here is the promotional text:
> >
> > "Sterling 210 is a Natural White, water-resistant Smooth Photographic
> > Matte Paper, made from 100% cotton rag and is acid and lignin free.  It
> > is very popular amongst photographers as well as those with quality
> > proofing and poster printing needs.  
> >  
> > Sterling boasts an exceptionally high DMAX of over 2.0.  Think of
> > Enhanced Matte, with a much higher color gamut, DMAX, and
> > achievability...for a lower cost.  It is arguably the highest
> > quality OBA free photo paper in the industry today."

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