Digital BW, The Print

Now that the Quadtone RIP is available for Windows I thought I'd try 
it.    Before doing so I have some questions:

1.  Are there any special "gotcha's" for running it in XP?   On 
another forum someone complained that it would not run when he wasn't 
attached to his network.  Anything else?

2.  Does it alter or mess around with drivers or Registry settings 
that would affect the way other programs - Photoshop, other RIPs, 
etc, operate?

3.  How does the output compare with other RIPs such as IP?

4.  Does it UNinstall cleanly?

Thanks in advance.

Peter

> 1.  Are there any special "gotcha's" for running it in XP?   On 
> another forum someone complained that it would not run when he wasn't 
> attached to his network.  Anything else?

Just follow the installation procedure to the last word and you´ll be fine.

> 2.  Does it alter or mess around with drivers or Registry settings 
> that would affect the way other programs - Photoshop, other RIPs, 
> etc, operate?

No, not at all.

> 3.  How does the output compare with other RIPs such as IP?

Sorry, can´t help you with that. The output is fantastic but I can´t compare
to IP since I have not used it. 

> 4.  Does it UNinstall cleanly?

I guess so.

1. You do have to have networking up and running. Some people without
permanent networks have had difficulties. There is a Microsoft Loopback
adapter that you can use for this situation.

You might appreciate a GUI interface rather than using the QTR scripts. See:
www.sbillard.org/Shareware/QTRgui.htm. This program also has a help file
that might aid you in using QTR. The program is freeware.

4. QuadToneRIP has no un-install routing. However, you can just delete the
files. Nothing is left behind. (QTRgui does uninstall cleanly.);

-Stephen
 www.sbillard.org/Stephen

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nelson Ricciardi [mailto:nelson_@...] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:56 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Quadtone RIP for Windows
> 
> 
> 
> Peter
> 
> > 1.  Are there any special "gotcha's" for running it in XP?   On 
> > another forum someone complained that it would not run when 
> he wasn't
> > attached to his network.  Anything else?
> 
> Just follow the installation procedure to the last word and 
> you´ll be fine.
> 
> > 2.  Does it alter or mess around with drivers or Registry settings
> > that would affect the way other programs - Photoshop, other RIPs, 
> > etc, operate?
> 
> No, not at all.
> 
> > 3.  How does the output compare with other RIPs such as IP?
> 
> Sorry, can´t help you with that. The output is fantastic but 
> I can´t compare to IP since I have not used it. 
> 
> > 4.  Does it UNinstall cleanly?
> 
> I guess so.
> 
> 
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It isn't completely self-installing, you have to do a bit of setup of
the loopback adaptor, if you don't already have a network, and in
operation it is equally simple - drag & drop your QTR-prepared file
onto the printer file in Windows Explorer, just like regular file
handling or directly from the Open File menu in Photoshop or whatever
it is that you use to open image files.

The program installs like any simple file and installs over any
existing version when you upgrade. The GUI is a separate program that
installs quite simply, too, so I'd be willing to bet that they both
uninstall equally cleanly.

I've re-installed and upgraded both in XP without uninstalling the
earlier ones, too.

One caution for all QTR users - I've found some erratic handling of
non-alphanumeric symbols in the file names. Two of my files with an
"&" in the file names printed at one time, then stopped until I
renamed them without the &.. 

Frank

Hi All,

I've been using the UT2 inks in a 1280 with Paul
Roark's curves (nice job Paul!) and have been really
impressed with the result on Hahnemuhle photo rag, and
decided to try printing on Epson's semigloss paper.

I get a really nice dmax, prints look great, but I've
noticed these vertically aligned regularly spaced
(about 1mm or less) white dots. I'm guessing they are
from the guiding wheels but what's confusing me is
that they are getting progressively worse for
subsequent prints. HPR is still ok though.

Anyone else seeing this problem? Any fixes?

Thanks!

Rob


		
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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen 
Billard" <stephen@s...> wrote:
> 1. You do have to have networking up and running. Some people 
without
> permanent networks have had difficulties. There is a Microsoft 
Loopback
> adapter that you can use for this situation.

What does it use the network for?   I run a 4 PC (3 Windows, 1 Linux) 
network at home but I keep security settings very high - for both 
inbound and outbound packets.   Also, several of the PC's are 
wireless.

Sounds like Pizza Wheels.  See http://www.inkjetart.com/pizza/  for
instructions on removing them.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Krawiec [mailto:robk64@...] 
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:23 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] UT2 1280 and Premium Semigloss


Hi All,

I've been using the UT2 inks in a 1280 with Paul
Roark's curves (nice job Paul!) and have been really
impressed with the result on Hahnemuhle photo rag, and
decided to try printing on Epson's semigloss paper.

I get a really nice dmax, prints look great, but I've
noticed these vertically aligned regularly spaced
(about 1mm or less) white dots. I'm guessing they are
from the guiding wheels but what's confusing me is
that they are getting progressively worse for
subsequent prints. HPR is still ok though.

Anyone else seeing this problem? Any fixes?

Thanks!

Rob


		
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Peter Nelson wrote:

>
>Now that the Quadtone RIP is available for Windows I thought I'd try 
>it.    Before doing so I have some questions:
>
>1.  Are there any special "gotcha's" for running it in XP?   On 
>another forum someone complained that it would not run when he wasn't 
>attached to his network.  Anything else?
>  
>
Carefully follow the instructions, it's not exactly plug & play :-)
Also you better use this http://www.sbillard.org/Shareware/QTRgui.htm

>2.  Does it alter or mess around with drivers or Registry settings 
>that would affect the way other programs - Photoshop, other RIPs, 
>etc, operate?
>  
>
Not that I'm aware of.

>3.  How does the output compare with other RIPs such as IP?
>  
>
Dunno, the results are very good so I don't need another RIP.

>4.  Does it UNinstall cleanly?
>  
>
Now why would I want to do that :-D
-- 

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Thanks, that fixed it!

Rob
--- Paul Roark <paul.roark@...> wrote:

> Sounds like Pizza Wheels.  See
> http://www.inkjetart.com/pizza/  for
> instructions on removing them.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Krawiec [mailto:robk64@...] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:23 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] UT2 1280 and Premium Semigloss
> 
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I've been using the UT2 inks in a 1280 with Paul
> Roark's curves (nice job Paul!) and have been really
> impressed with the result on Hahnemuhle photo rag,
> and
> decided to try printing on Epson's semigloss paper.
> 
> I get a really nice dmax, prints look great, but
> I've
> noticed these vertically aligned regularly spaced
> (about 1mm or less) white dots. I'm guessing they
> are
> from the guiding wheels but what's confusing me is
> that they are getting progressively worse for
> subsequent prints. HPR is still ok though.
> 
> Anyone else seeing this problem? Any fixes?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Rob
> 
> 
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