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2000p ruggedness

2000p ruggedness

2004-10-12 by claudej1@aol.com

In a message dated 10/11/2004 10:46:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com writes:

> Interesting. And Paul, from what I've heard from tech repair guys, the 
> 2000P is a much 
> more solid and durable printer than the 2200. My friend has done thousands 
> and 
> thousands of editions on her's and it still keeps on tickin. It may be slow 
> but it is solid as a 
> rock.
> 
There's a reason why it cost $899 while the 1200/1270/1280 were only $499. 
Epson put more into it, perhaps, even thought the size/shape was similar to the 
others.

That price difference was also the main reason they were relatively unsold on 
the shelves of my local Comp USA stores, since the colors were brighter from 
the dye machines for the average prosumer.

Claude


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RE: [Digital BW] 2000p ruggedness & dmax

2004-10-12 by Paul Roark

Your observations about the ruggedness of the old Epsons is interesting.
Consider also that the dmax readings I'm getting on the 2000P (like my old
7500) are much better than the newer printers.
 
For example, the 2000P dmax on PhotoRag is 1.75 (next day reading),
PremierArt 205 is 1.65 (thoroughly dry).  Compare this to the 4000 test
strips I've seen:  PhotoRag 1.66, PremierArt  1.57.  The 7600 doesn't seem
to be much better than the 4000. Sad.  

These old 2000P and 7500 printers may be a collectables.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 
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Subject: [Digital BW] 2000p ruggedness


In a message dated 10/11/2004 10:46:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com writes:

> Interesting. And Paul, from what I've heard from tech repair guys, the 
> 2000P is a much 
> more solid and durable printer than the 2200. My friend has done thousands

> and 
> thousands of editions on her's and it still keeps on tickin. It may be
slow 
> but it is solid as a 
> rock.
> 
There's a reason why it cost $899 while the 1200/1270/1280 were only $499. 
Epson put more into it, perhaps, even thought the size/shape was similar to
the 
others.

That price difference was also the main reason they were relatively unsold
on 
the shelves of my local Comp USA stores, since the colors were brighter from

the dye machines for the average prosumer.

Claude

RE: [Digital BW] 2000p ruggedness & dmax

2004-10-12 by Paul D. DeRocco

> From: Paul Roark [mailto:paul.roark@...]
>
> Your observations about the ruggedness of the old Epsons is interesting.
> Consider also that the dmax readings I'm getting on the 2000P (like my old
> 7500) are much better than the newer printers.
>
> For example, the 2000P dmax on PhotoRag is 1.75 (next day reading),
> PremierArt 205 is 1.65 (thoroughly dry).  Compare this to the 4000 test
> strips I've seen:  PhotoRag 1.66, PremierArt  1.57.  The 7600 doesn't seem
> to be much better than the 4000. Sad.

It's hard to imagine why. I would think either printer would be capable of
laying down enough ink to cover the paper. Have you tried goosing the ink
load slider in the newer printers?

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Ciao,               Paul D. DeRocco
Paul                mailto:pderocco@...

RE: [Digital BW] 2000p ruggedness & dmax

2004-10-12 by Paul Roark

The ink load sliders on the 7600 and 4000 appear to have only a marginal
impact on the dmax readings of the matte papers.  I think there may be a
relationship between dot size the ability to achieve a good dmax.
Unfortunately, the smaller dots may be at a disadvantage.

Maybe there are other factors, but I think this model is the most consistent
with the results I've seen from the 3000 on.  (That old workhorse has an
excellent dmax.  It may still be the ultimate affordable route to 16 x 20
B&W.)

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 
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Subject: RE: [Digital BW] 2000p ruggedness & dmax


> From: Paul Roark [mailto:paul.roark@...]
>
> Your observations about the ruggedness of the old Epsons is interesting.
> Consider also that the dmax readings I'm getting on the 2000P (like my old
> 7500) are much better than the newer printers.
>
> For example, the 2000P dmax on PhotoRag is 1.75 (next day reading),
> PremierArt 205 is 1.65 (thoroughly dry).  Compare this to the 4000 test
> strips I've seen:  PhotoRag 1.66, PremierArt  1.57.  The 7600 doesn't seem
> to be much better than the 4000. Sad.

It's hard to imagine why. I would think either printer would be capable of
laying down enough ink to cover the paper. Have you tried goosing the ink
load slider in the newer printers?

--

Ciao,               Paul D. DeRocco
Paul                mailto:pderocco@...




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