Digital BW, The Print

Does anyone have or seen user reviews on HPs new 24" wide printer? It sells  
for about $1300. Wonder how it preforms,especially for B&W. It takes up a  lot 
less space than the Epson 4000 and has 7" wider paper. Just concerned about  
the if it sounds too good to be true saying.
Dave


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Yep, cheap build, metemerism, and expensive paper.

too good to be true.


Jules

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, dsmall9917@a... 
wrote:
> Does anyone have or seen user reviews on HPs new 24" wide printer? 
It sells  
> for about $1300. Wonder how it preforms,especially for B&W. It 
takes up a  lot 
> less space than the Epson 4000 and has 7" wider paper. Just 
concerned about  

> the if it sounds too good to be true saying.
> Dave
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I noticed that in a Mac catalogue also; it does sound good, but if 
you check carefully you'll see the 1300 dollar version is a 4-ink 
printer- the 6-inker costs as much as a factory refurbed 7600. The 
real problem though is getting B&W support. None of the inexpensive 
methods will support that printer, so you'll have to spend another 
$1500-plus for a RIP and maybe a densitometer, and of course the 
time involved, to get good B&W out of it. Not to mention the fade 
issue- does the printer use pigments or dyes? 

Steve Karafyllakis


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, dsmall9917@a... 
wrote:
> Does anyone have or seen user reviews on HPs new 24" wide printer? 
It sells  
> for about $1300. Wonder how it preforms,especially for B&W. It 
takes up a  lot 
> less space than the Epson 4000 and has 7" wider paper. Just 
concerned about  

> the if it sounds too good to be true saying.
> Dave
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Steven Karafyllakis wrote:

> 
> I noticed that in a Mac catalogue also; it does sound good, but if 
> you check carefully you'll see the 1300 dollar version is a 4-ink 
> printer- the 6-inker costs as much as a factory refurbed 7600. The 
> real problem though is getting B&W support. None of the inexpensive 
> methods will support that printer, so you'll have to spend another 
> $1500-plus for a RIP and maybe a densitometer, and of course the 
> time involved, to get good B&W out of it. Not to mention the fade 
> issue- does the printer use pigments or dyes? 

Dye based, but the initial testing by Wilhelm looks good.  I don't have 
any personal experience with the printer.

http://www.wilhelm-research.com/dj130/hp_dj130_preview.html

	Walt

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Walt Farrell 
<wftemp1@h...> wrote:
> 
> Steven Karafyllakis wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I noticed that in a Mac catalogue also; it does sound good, but 
if 
> > you check carefully you'll see the 1300 dollar version is a 4-
ink 
> > printer- the 6-inker costs as much as a factory refurbed 7600. 
The 
> > real problem though is getting B&W support. None of the 
inexpensive 
> > methods will support that printer, so you'll have to spend 
another 
> > $1500-plus for a RIP and maybe a densitometer, and of course the 
> > time involved, to get good B&W out of it. Not to mention the 
fade 
> > issue- does the printer use pigments or dyes? 
> 
> Dye based, but the initial testing by Wilhelm looks good.  I don't 
have 
> any personal experience with the printer.
> 
> http://www.wilhelm-research.com/dj130/hp_dj130_preview.html
> 
> 	Walt

Wow, Loks good! Having that kind of stability with dye gamut is one 
thing I've been waiting for! And it looks like it is a six ink 
machine, maybe I misread the catalogue ad.  I hope Wilhelm test it 
with rag papers as well!

Steve