Digital BW, The Print

I own an epson 2100 and want to print using QTR. I tried installing 
the windows XP version, but the installation woudln't even copy the 
files over to the folders created. 
I also have a Apple Powerbook, and could install QTR on that. Can 
anyone tell me if the installation and subsequent use is easier on 
Windows or Apple OSX ?

Many thanks in advance,
Andrew

QTR 2.1 is very easy to setup on the Mac with OSX. (my experience is 
with Panther 10.3.x)

I am using it with the supplied profiles for Epson Enhanced Matte, 
printing to various watercolor papers and getting very good results.

I don't have any experience with the Windows version.

James

On Nov 11, 2004, at 10:49 PM, alnchiem wrote:

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> I own an epson 2100 and want to print using QTR. I tried installing
> the windows XP version, but the installation woudln't even copy the
> files over to the folders created.
> I also have a Apple Powerbook, and could install QTR on that. Can
> anyone tell me if the installation and subsequent use is easier on
> Windows or Apple OSX ?
>
> Many thanks in advance,
> Andrew
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Sorry for the ignorance, but can someone please enlighten me, what is 
QTR 2.1?

thanks,
danny


>
> QTR 2.1 is very easy to setup on the Mac with OSX. (my experience is
> with Panther 10.3.x)
>
> I am using it with the supplied profiles for Epson Enhanced Matte,
> printing to various watercolor papers and getting very good results.
>
> I don't have any experience with the Windows version.
>
> James
>
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> On Nov 11, 2004, at 10:49 PM, alnchiem wrote:
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>>
>>
>>
>> I own an epson 2100 and want to print using QTR. I tried installing
>> the windows XP version, but the installation woudln't even copy the
>> files over to the folders created.
>> I also have a Apple Powerbook, and could install QTR on that. Can
>> anyone tell me if the installation and subsequent use is easier on
>> Windows or Apple OSX ?
>>
>> Many thanks in advance,
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other
>> resources as they are often being updated.
>>
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
>>
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>> B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be
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>> BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE
>> PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE �OWNER�
>> AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE
>> LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL,
>> CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO,
>> DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE
>> LOSSES (EVEN IF THE  �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT
>> YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES),
>> RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW,
>> THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF
>> YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD
>> PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER
>> MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
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> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other 
> resources as they are often being updated.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
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> BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE 
> PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE �OWNER� 
> AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE 
> LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, 
> CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, 
> DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE 
> LOSSES (EVEN IF THE  �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT 
> YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), 
> RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, 
> THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF 
> YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD 
> PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER 
> MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Danny Twang wrote:

>Sorry for the ignorance, but can someone please enlighten me, what is 
>QTR 2.1?
>
>thanks,
>danny
>  
>
Try QTR with the QTRgui, you get fantastic B&W prints with the standard 
ink set.
http://harrington.com/QuadTonePC.html
http://www.sbillard.org/Shareware/QTRgui.htm
-- 

Hans Van Rafelghem
http://www.vanrafelghem.com

I didn't even realise QTR 2.1 was for the Mac (i use 10.3.6), I thot
it was for win XP, and some earlier version was for the Mac. And
didn't realise the GUI worked on the Mac either; from the discussion,
I thot it was for Windows on users.
Another basic question - on the Mac, does QTR print via Photoshop CS
or do I have to use this Gimp software? I remember reading something
to that effect, but not sure if that as changed since.
Many thanks for the answers,
Andrew



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, James Haney
<jhaney@l...> wrote:
> QTR 2.1 is very easy to setup on the Mac with OSX. (my experience is 
> with Panther 10.3.x)
> 
> I am using it with the supplied profiles for Epson Enhanced Matte, 
> printing to various watercolor papers and getting very good results.
> 
> I don't have any experience with the Windows version.
> 
> James
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 11, 2004, at 10:49 PM, alnchiem wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >
> > I own an epson 2100 and want to print using QTR. I tried installing
> > the windows XP version, but the installation woudln't even copy the
> > files over to the folders created.
> > I also have a Apple Powerbook, and could install QTR on that. Can
> > anyone tell me if the installation and subsequent use is easier on
> > Windows or Apple OSX ?
> >
> > Many thanks in advance,
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other 
> > resources as they are often being updated.
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
> >
> > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish 
> > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting 
> > this same page.
> >
> > Please follow these basic guidelines:
> > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to 
> > keep them short.
> > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or 
> > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed
from 
> > the membership without notice.
> > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital 
> > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be 
> > removed from the membership.
> > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and 
> > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group 
> > Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the 
> > Files section:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/
> >
> > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE 
> > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE
"OWNER" 
> > AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE 
> > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, 
> > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, 
> > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE 
> > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE  "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE
PRINT 

> > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), 
> > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, 
> > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF 
> > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD 
> > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER 
> > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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> >
> >
> >
> >

> Another basic question - on the Mac, does QTR print via Photoshop CS
> or do I have to use this Gimp software? I remember reading something
> to that effect, but not sure if that as changed since.
> Many thanks for the answers,
> Andrew

I have the same question.  I've downloaded QTR, getting ready to setup
my 1280, and have the same question as Andrew.  I have Gimp installed
and have used it, briefly, but do not feel as confident using it as I do
PHotoshop.

TIA,

Ken Frazier
Weston, CT  USA

Hi Andrew,

Please trim your posts...thanks!

 "alnchiem"  wrote:

> didn't realise the GUI worked on the Mac either; from the discussion,
> I thot it was for Windows on users.


No it does not...GUI is only for Windows. Mac doesn't need it!



> Another basic question - on the Mac, does QTR print via Photoshop CS
> or do I have to use this Gimp software? 

QTR installs all the gimp software that you need. 

On the Mac QTR prints via the OS Print Driver window - the window with all the pull-down 
menus.

> I have the same question.

Never mind.  I've answered my own question...

Thanks,

Ken Frazier

Danny, the QTR is a software that will produce B&W prints from a epson
2100/2200 (and other printers too) that have no colour cast. I believe
it does this by restricting the colour inks that are used to print
B&W. Although there are other software packages that can do this, QTR
is almost free, and does not require you to change to special inks.
rgds,
 Andrew

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Danny Twang
<dannyt@f...> wrote:
> 
> Sorry for the ignorance, but can someone please enlighten me, what is 
> QTR 2.1?
> 
> thanks,
> danny
> 
> 
> >
> > QTR 2.1 is very easy to setup on the Mac with OSX. (my experience is
> > with Panther 10.3.x)
> >
> > I am using it with the supplied profiles for Epson Enhanced Matte,
> > printing to various watercolor papers and getting very good results.
> >
> > I don't have any experience with the Windows version.
> >
> > James
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 11, 2004, at 10:49 PM, alnchiem wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I own an epson 2100 and want to print using QTR. I tried installing
> >> the windows XP version, but the installation woudln't even copy the
> >> files over to the folders created.
> >> I also have a Apple Powerbook, and could install QTR on that. Can
> >> anyone tell me if the installation and subsequent use is easier on
> >> Windows or Apple OSX ?
> >>
> >> Many thanks in advance,
> >> Andrew
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other
> >> resources as they are often being updated.
> >>
> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
> >>
> >> If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish
> >> to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting
> >> this same page.
> >>
> >> Please follow these basic guidelines:
> >> - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to
> >> keep them short.
> >> - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or
> >> flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed
from
> >> the membership without notice.
> >> - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital
> >> B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be
> >> removed from the membership.
> >> - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and
> >> guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group
> >> Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the
> >> Files section:
> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/
> >>
> >> BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE
> >> PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE
"OWNER"
> >> AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE
> >> LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL,
> >> CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO,
> >> DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE
> >> LOSSES (EVEN IF THE  "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE
PRINT
> >> YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES),
> >> RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW,
> >> THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF
> >> YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD
> >> PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER
> >> MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other 
> > resources as they are often being updated.
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
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> > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital 
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> > removed from the membership.
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> >
> > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE 
> > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE
"OWNER" 
> > AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE 
> > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, 
> > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, 
> > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE 
> > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE  "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE
PRINT 

> > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), 
> > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, 
> > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF 
> > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD 
> > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER 
> > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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