Digital BW, The Print

Which is a better buy for printing B&W the 1200, 1280, or the 1160?
I guess I'm asking is it better to go with 6-ink or 4-ink.

I really appreciate the advice.

Brandon

Personally, I love my 1160's...but they are hard to come by and eventually
you will have to go 6 color.  That said, seems like the 1270 or 1280 would
be a better move given that when you have to replace them in the future you
will be able to find them longer and therefore use the same CIS.

Robert

On 11/5/01 9:34 PM, "reefboy37@..." <reefboy37@...> wrote:

> Which is a better buy for printing B&W the 1200, 1280, or the 1160?
> I guess I'm asking is it better to go with 6-ink or 4-ink.
> 
> I really appreciate the advice.
> 
> Brandon 
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Brandon,

You wrote:

>Which is a better buy for printing B&W the 1200, 1280, or the 1160?
>I guess I'm asking is it better to go with 6-ink or 4-ink.

I'd say the 1280 wins on image quality, though most won't see any difference
between the 4 and 6 ink "quads."  If you like to play with inks -- for
example, mixing your own toners, like the sepia toner I've recently
mentioned -- then the 1160 is unbeatable.  Only one ink toner to mix, and 3
v. 5 cart positions to fill when you want to switch color carts.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

Brandon,

I should say it much depends on what 'system' you want to print with. If
Piezo BW, the 1160 is a stalwart and you get excellent dot-free prints
regardless of whether or nto you are using 1160, 1200, 1280/90.

However, in that sense, if you are using MIS VM or Lyson or whatever, the
smaller dots and tighter packing [of the dots] from the later (1280/90) six
colour printers help these systems considerably (as I understand it) bring
it towards Piezo quality in the dot-free sense. There are numerous
advantages with either system, and I'll leave it to you to search out the
Archives and Files section of the group to see previous system-comparison
postings.

Nij

> -----Original Message-----
> From: reefboy37@... [mailto:reefboy37@...]
>
> Which is a better buy for printing B&W the 1200, 1280, or the 1160?
> I guess I'm asking is it better to go with 6-ink or 4-ink.
>
> I really appreciate the advice.
>
> Brandon

I have the 1200 using Piezography. Image quality is excellent--no 
dots, smooth tonal gradations. With Piezo inks, the 6 color 
printers use the same 4 ink densities as the 4 color sets, just 
spread out over 6 bottles---more volume but the exact same 
densities. I believe MIS to be a different story, with 6 different ink 
densities. 

The only drawback I've found relates to paper feed. If the paper 
doesn't feed properly and move into position under the print 
head, the 1200 often starts spraying anyway, onto the printer 
itself. I've had this happen on a regular basis. You can cancel the 
print job or turn off the printer, and wipe out the ribbed channel 
which catches all the ink, with a paper towel and windex. This 
problem appears to be unique to the 1200, as other printers will 
refuse to lay down ink if the paper doesn't get fed properly. 
Holding the paper by the sides to help it "catch" onto the rollers 
as it starts to feed has, so far, eliminated this problem, but you 
can forget about unattended printing of multiple copies.

Amadou Diallo

Now that you mention it, my 1520 used to do this as well. I was very happy to find that the 1160 
"knew" it had paper under the heads. Far less swabbing the printers innards, now.

Tim

> The only drawback I've found relates to paper feed. If the paper
> doesn't feed properly and move into position under the print head, the
> 1200 often starts spraying anyway, onto the printer itself. I've had
> this happen on a regular basis. You can cancel the print job or turn
> off the printer, and wipe out the ribbed channel which catches all the
> ink, with a paper towel and windex. This problem appears to be unique
> to the 1200, as other printers will refuse to lay down ink if the
> paper doesn't get fed properly. 

--
Tim Spragens
http://www.borderless-photos.com
&
http://www.borderless-photos.de

Brandon,

I have both the 1200 (Piezo) and the 1280 (MIS VM). I think that the 
1280 is a much better printer. Fewer banding problems, much quieter 
and better paper handling. Besides it is easy to get a new 1280 and 
finding a 1200 may be a problem.

As far as print quality goes I don't think there is that much 
difference but all things considered I would go for the 1280.

Martin Wesley

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., reefboy37@y... wrote:

> Which is a better buy for printing B&W the 1200, 1280, or the 1160?
> I guess I'm asking is it better to go with 6-ink or 4-ink.
> 
> I really appreciate the advice.
> 
> Brandon