Digital BW, The Print

In the list *Files* section, "Message Related Files", FS-N1-PZO.jpg,
Paul has placed two prints of a landscape printed with the Piezo 
software using Piezo inks for one image, and a neutral set of his own 
devising for the other. My monitor is calibrated with PhotoCal, and 
the colour prints I get from my 1160 using a ProfilerRGB profiler 
match wonderfully well with the screen image, so I assume the 
impression I have of these two prints is sound. Rich as it is, the 
piezo print bears a distinctly green cast. The other print suits my 
taste very well, but that's not the point. I want only to ask those
of you who print with the piezo set to look at the prints Paul has 
made available and say whether the piezo fairly represents your 
experience with these inks. Warm is one thing, green is another.
Bob Bollini

on 11/4/01 1:07 AM, Jon Cone wrote:

First, I believe that whether you are on Mac or on Windows, you should use a
Gamma of 1.8 when you are using your system for inkjet printing. The gamma
of 1.8 most closely replicates the behavior of the printer.

I'm trying to make sense of the above quote from Jon Cone- it seems to run
counter to alot of the comments on this and other lists.  I am currently
standardized on D65, gamma 2.2.

Bill

PS- I brought this over here because I don't print w/ Piezo, and want a more
generic discussion of the issue. 


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I noticed that as well, and must say it doesn't accurately represent the
color of my prints, which are a more chocolate color.  I think these things
need to be examined first hand.

STEPHEN    JENNINGS
    P h o t o g r a p h e r
       Cambridge, MA
sgjennin@...

> In the list *Files* section, "Message Related Files", FS-N1-PZO.jpg,
> Paul has placed two prints of a landscape printed with the Piezo
> software using Piezo inks for one image, and a neutral set of his own
> devising for the other. My monitor is calibrated with PhotoCal, and
> the colour prints I get from my 1160 using a ProfilerRGB profiler
> match wonderfully well with the screen image, so I assume the
> impression I have of these two prints is sound. Rich as it is, the
> piezo print bears a distinctly green cast. The other print suits my
> taste very well, but that's not the point. I want only to ask those
> of you who print with the piezo set to look at the prints Paul has
> made available and say whether the piezo fairly represents your
> experience with these inks. Warm is one thing, green is another.
> Bob Bollini

I've been using the Piezo inks for less than 2 months, but have 
made many prints on Somerset Velvet and tested a lot of paper 
samples and not once have I seen anything remotely close to 
the tone of Paul's Piezo ink print. For Piezo ink users, paper 
choice is the determinant of coolness/warmth of an image. I've 
gotten neutral and brown, but never green. You can request a 
printed sample image from InkJetMall. I'd trust a hardcopy over a 
compressed jpeg anyday.

Bob,

Paul's scan is a pretty accurate representation of the color of my 
Piezo prints off my 1200. Some people see it as warm. Some see the 
green in it. This seems to vary from person to person. The Neutral FS 
looks much better to my eye.

Martin Wesley


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., rbollini@n... wrote:
> In the list *Files* section, "Message Related Files", FS-N1-PZO.jpg,
> Paul has placed two prints of a landscape printed with the Piezo 
> software using Piezo inks for one image, and a neutral set of his 
own 

> devising for the other. My monitor is calibrated with PhotoCal, and 
> the colour prints I get from my 1160 using a ProfilerRGB profiler 
> match wonderfully well with the screen image, so I assume the 
> impression I have of these two prints is sound. Rich as it is, the 
> piezo print bears a distinctly green cast. The other print suits my 
> taste very well, but that's not the point. I want only to ask those
> of you who print with the piezo set to look at the prints Paul has 
> made available and say whether the piezo fairly represents your 
> experience with these inks. Warm is one thing, green is another.
> Bob Bollini