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Everyfink is pink!

Everyfink is pink!

2004-11-26 by Dean

Hey!

I know this was asked here recently, but I can't seem to find the answer
by searching.

I just used Spyder to calibrate my monitor. Now, everything is very
slightly pinkish (or very pinkish depending on your point of view). I'm
not talking about images brought up now after the calibration, but the
whole general look of the monitor, regardless of what is on it.

Can someone help me, as I'm sure this is not right?

Also, I assume I should now set the RGB working space of any image
editing programs to this new profile right (bet that last one pegged me
for the rank newbie I am)?

Thanks.

Sooner,
Dean

Re: Everyfink is pink!

2004-11-26 by tynmansystems

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Dean <dean@t...> 
wrote:
> I just used Spyder to calibrate my monitor. Now, everything is very
> slightly pinkish 

Dean, my profiled monitor also appears slightly pink. However, it 
also displays images in Photoshop properly, in that they appear very 
close to the prints I make, which is what monitor profiling is all 
about. 

 
> Also, I assume I should now set the RGB working space of any image
> editing programs to this new profile right (bet that last one 
pegged me
> for the rank newbie I am)?

No, the profile created by the monitor profiling software is for the 
monitor itself, not for image editing programs. There should be 
something in the instructions for the monitor profiling package that 
explains what to do with the monitor profile. As I recall, the 
monitor profiling software that I use automatically places the new 
monitor profile in the correct directory and tells Windows to use it 
forever thereafter.

...Ben

Re: Everyfink is pink!

2004-11-27 by Eric G Bullock

On Friday, November 26, 2004, at 07:53 PM, 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> I just used Spyder to calibrate my monitor. Now, everything is very
> slightly pinkish (or very pinkish depending on your point of view). I'm
> not talking about images brought up now after the calibration, but the
> whole general look of the monitor, regardless of what is on it.
>
> Can someone help me, as I'm sure this is not right?

What target settings (white point & gamma) did you choose? I did hear 
of someone complaining about this a while back but don't recall what 
the solution was (or if there was one!). A few years back I had a 
negative experience with the Spyder and went through three of them 
before I finally threw in the towel (all three produced wildly 
different results). I hear the new instrument is much better in terms 
of reliability, but have not had the pleasure of trying one. I'd 
suggest you contact their technical support and describe your problem.

> Also, I assume I should now set the RGB working space of any image
> editing programs to this new profile right (bet that last one pegged me
> for the rank newbie I am)?

Please don't! Steve Upton from Chromix has been collecting color 
management myths...the monitor RGB as working space is No. 7 in the 
series. He has explained it better than I ever could, so I include it 
here:

Myth #7: Setup Photoshop with your monitor profile as the working space.

While this seems to be happening less often as in the past, a recent 
article in a popular photo magazine article contained this dubious 
piece of advice.

If you set Photoshop to use your monitor profile as your working space, 
all new RGB documents will be created using your monitor profile as 
their gamut definition. This is a bad idea for a handful of reasons:

1. All colors will be limited to the gamut of your monitor. As all 
ColorThink users know, the gamut of your monitor (and sRGB for that 
matter) tends to be smaller than that of most output systems. Inkjets, 
presses and photographic output methods typically contain cyans, 
greens, yellows and even some reds and magentas that monitors cannot 
display. Photoshop 5 and later versions effectively disconnected your 
RGB file from your display, allowing non-displayable colors to pass 
through Photoshop and be printed. This is a good thing, don't undo it.

2. Each time your re-profile your display you will have a different 
working space. Color management is enough of a moving target without 
changing your working space every 2-4 weeks (you are re-profiling every 
2-4 weeks right?).

3. Exchanging files with your monitor profile embedded will cause 
confusion. The reactions from people who receive files with embedded 
profiles range from "wha?" to "amateur!". As mentioned in past 
ColorNews newsletters, when you exchange files with other people you 
should convert to standard color spaces such as Adobe RGB (1998), sRGB 
and so forth.

Steve Upton
Feb, 2004
www.chromix.com/ColorNews

Regards,

Eric Bullock
PixelPusherz Imaging
www.pixelpusherz.net


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Re: Everyfink is pink!

2004-11-28 by Dean

Hey!

Thanks for everyone's advice, both on and off list.

Basically, I have done nothing since calibrating with the Spyder, and
now I just don't really notice the pinkness. Perhaps you could say I now
have a warm screen ;-)

Thanks.

Sooner,
Dean

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