Digital BW, The Print

Has there been any development on the R800 front (piezo for example)?

I have owned this printer for about 6 months.  While I am happy with 
the color it produces I have yet to make an acceptable B&W print.  I 
can't find a BO setting on it, nor have I found any literarture on RIPS 
to work with it.  Any suggestions will be much appreciated.

My experience:

* using the supplied ICC profiles yields B&W with a rich, chocolate tone. While not neutral, 
it is quite pleasing

* using a custom-made ICC profile yields dead-neutral B&W with no perceptible colour 
shifts

While with colour the R800 struggles with subtle skin tones and browns, its B&W 
performance is just fine for my purposes.

Suggestions:
1. download the R1800 (yes, 1800) profiles from the US web site and try those. They are 
apparently newer than the R800 ones and, since the printers are near identical, work fine.

2. pay for custom profiles.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "percusguy" <percusguy@y...> 
wrote:

> I have owned this printer for about 6 months.  While I am happy with 
> the color it produces I have yet to make an acceptable B&W print.  I 
> can't find a BO setting on it, nor have I found any literarture on RIPS 
> to work with it.  Any suggestions will be much appreciated.

Another possibility is to download QTR  which has profiles for EEM


 Steve
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "andrew" 
<andrew@a...> wrote:
> My experience:
> 
> * using the supplied ICC profiles yields B&W with a rich, chocolate 
tone. While not neutral, 
> it is quite pleasing
> 
> * using a custom-made ICC profile yields dead-neutral B&W with no 
perceptible colour 
> shifts
> 
> While with colour the R800 struggles with subtle skin tones and 
browns, its B&W 
> performance is just fine for my purposes.
> 
> Suggestions:
> 1. download the R1800 (yes, 1800) profiles from the US web site and 
try those. They are 
> apparently newer than the R800 ones and, since the printers are 
near identical, work fine.
> 
> 2. pay for custom profiles.
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "percusguy" 
<percusguy@y...> 
> wrote:
> > I have owned this printer for about 6 months.  While I am happy 
with 
> > the color it produces I have yet to make an acceptable B&W 
print.  I 
> > can't find a BO setting on it, nor have I found any literarture 
on RIPS 
> > to work with it.  Any suggestions will be much appreciated.

Thank you Steve.  Forgive my lack of knowledge but what are QTR  and 
EEM?
pITT
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen 
Kobrin" <kobrins@w...> wrote:
> Another possibility is to download QTR  which has profiles for EEM
> 
> 
>  Steve
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "andrew" 
> <andrew@a...> wrote:
> > My experience:
> > 
> > * using the supplied ICC profiles yields B&W with a rich, 
chocolate 
> tone. While not neutral, 
> > it is quite pleasing
> > 
> > * using a custom-made ICC profile yields dead-neutral B&W with 
no 
> perceptible colour 
> > shifts
> > 
> > While with colour the R800 struggles with subtle skin tones and 
> browns, its B&W 
> > performance is just fine for my purposes.
> > 
> > Suggestions:
> > 1. download the R1800 (yes, 1800) profiles from the US web site 
and 
> try those. They are 
> > apparently newer than the R800 ones and, since the printers are 
> near identical, work fine.
> > 
> > 2. pay for custom profiles.
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "percusguy" 
> <percusguy@y...> 
> > wrote:
> > > I have owned this printer for about 6 months.  While I am 
happy 
> with 
> > > the color it produces I have yet to make an acceptable B&W 
> print.  I 
> > > can't find a BO setting on it, nor have I found any 
literarture 
> on RIPS 
> > > to work with it.  Any suggestions will be much appreciated.

> Thank you Steve.  Forgive my lack of knowledge but what are QTR  and 
> EEM?

Guy,

QTR is Roy Harringtons Quad Tone RIP, a software program which provides 
for B&W prints with a variety of printers and inks.  EEM is Epson 
Enhanced Matte paper.

Steve

http://harrington.com/QuadToneRIP.html

> From: Stephen Kobrin <kobrins@...>
> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:22:01 -0000
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Epson R800
> 
> 
>> Thank you Steve.  Forgive my lack of knowledge but what are QTR  and
>> EEM?
> 
> Guy,
> 
> QTR is Roy Harringtons Quad Tone RIP, a software program which provides
> for B&W prints with a variety of printers and inks.  EEM is Epson
> Enhanced Matte paper.
> 
> Steve

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Kobrin" 
<kobrins@w...> wrote:
> 
> > Thank you Steve.  Forgive my lack of knowledge but what are QTR  
and 
> > EEM?
> 
> Guy,
> 
> QTR is Roy Harringtons Quad Tone RIP, a software program which 
provides 
> for B&W prints with a variety of printers and inks.  EEM is Epson 
> Enhanced Matte paper.
> 
> Steve
Thank you,,again.

I thank you for your response, Andrew, and I regret not getting back 
to you sooner. Could you please explain "supplied ICC profiles" and 
how does one obtain a "custom-made ICC profile"?  I asked Epson tech 
support about downloading R1800 profiles and they said they would 
not work.  I still intend to try if you say so.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "andrew" 
<andrew@a...> wrote:
> My experience:
> 
> * using the supplied ICC profiles yields B&W with a rich, 
chocolate tone. While not neutral, 
> it is quite pleasing
> 
> * using a custom-made ICC profile yields dead-neutral B&W with no 
perceptible colour 
> shifts
> 
> While with colour the R800 struggles with subtle skin tones and 
browns, its B&W 
> performance is just fine for my purposes.
> 
> Suggestions:
> 1. download the R1800 (yes, 1800) profiles from the US web site 
and try those. They are 
> apparently newer than the R800 ones and, since the printers are 
near identical, work fine.
> 
> 2. pay for custom profiles.
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "percusguy" 
<percusguy@y...> 
> wrote:
> > I have owned this printer for about 6 months.  While I am happy 
with 
> > the color it produces I have yet to make an acceptable B&W 
print.  I 
> > can't find a BO setting on it, nor have I found any literarture 
on RIPS 
> > to work with it.  Any suggestions will be much appreciated.