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Re: [Digital BW] Coating prints

2004-12-17 by sinwen

This would imply to have a spare cartridge slot and to be able to print only with it, the subject to be printed should be something like a grey card to have an evenly spread coating.....not easy I think.
Why not just a normal pot and spread the coating with a brush or a sponge, something easy.

Michel
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steve Kale 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 5:30 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Coating prints



  I, like many others, have had all sorts of difficulties spraying RC paper prints. (I have tried 
  Lyson Print Guard which people tend to believe is the same thing as Print Shield.)  I really 
  don't think it works very well and is horrible on images with great expanses of deep black 
  - read mottled blacks and trapped dust.  But the recent glop dicussion begs the following:

  Could someone like MIS develop a Print Shield like coating and instead of putting it in an 
  aerosol can put it in a refillable ink cartridge?  Our printers are already capable of precise 
  spraying of ink, how about a protective coating?  Any RIP/driver could be used to "spray" 
  an already printed image.

  Thoughts?





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Re: [Digital BW] Coating prints

2004-12-17 by Steve Kale

Michael

The driver end is easy.  Either use QTR and any slot or use the Epson driver
and overprint a 100% black "image" with the coating in the K slot.

The brush/sponge or even a mayer rod is, for my tastes, just a mess waiting
to happen.

Steve
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> From: sinwen <sinwen@...>
> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 17:42:53 +0100
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Coating prints
> 
> 
> This would imply to have a spare cartridge slot and to be able to print only
> with it, the subject to be printed should be something like a grey card to
> have an evenly spread coating.....not easy I think.
> Why not just a normal pot and spread the coating with a brush or a sponge,
> something easy.
> 
> Michel

Re: [Digital BW] Coating prints

2004-12-17 by Chris Hargens

I don't see why one couldn't do this by just filling one of MIS's 
2200 virgin PK empties with glop and then switching over to use on 
multiple prints -- let's say 20, for example -- that have been 
carefully stored for coating. Doing a large batch at one time would 
offset the cost of switching cartridges, purging, etc. I'll probably 
give this a try if Print Shield turns out to be satisfactory. Of 
course, the problem of protecting the coated prints still remains.

Chris Hargens
Chris Hargens--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
Steve Kale <stevekale@b...> wrote:
> Michael
> 
> The driver end is easy.  Either use QTR and any slot or use the 
Epson driver
> and overprint a 100% black "image" with the coating in the K slot.
> 
> The brush/sponge or even a mayer rod is, for my tastes, just a mess 
waiting
> to happen.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> > From: sinwen <sinwen@f...>
> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 17:42:53 +0100
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Coating prints
> > 
> > 
> > This would imply to have a spare cartridge slot and to be able to 
print only
> > with it, the subject to be printed should be something like a 
grey card to
> > have an evenly spread coating.....not easy I think.
> > Why not just a normal pot and spread the coating with a brush or 
a sponge,
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> > something easy.
> > 
> > Michel

Re: [Digital BW] Coating prints

2004-12-17 by Chris Hargens

I don't see why one couldn't do this by just filling one of MIS's 
2200 virgin PK empties with glop and then switching over to use on 
multiple prints -- let's say 20, for example -- that have been 
carefully stored for coating. Doing a large batch at one time would 
offset the cost of switching cartridges, purging, etc. I'll probably 
give this a try if Print Shield turns out to be satisfactory. Of 
course, the problem of protecting the coated prints still remains.

Chris Hargens
Chris Hargens--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, 
Steve Kale <stevekale@b...> wrote:
> Michael
> 
> The driver end is easy.  Either use QTR and any slot or use the 
Epson driver
> and overprint a 100% black "image" with the coating in the K slot.
> 
> The brush/sponge or even a mayer rod is, for my tastes, just a mess 
waiting
> to happen.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> > From: sinwen <sinwen@f...>
> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 17:42:53 +0100
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Coating prints
> > 
> > 
> > This would imply to have a spare cartridge slot and to be able to 
print only
> > with it, the subject to be printed should be something like a 
grey card to
> > have an evenly spread coating.....not easy I think.
> > Why not just a normal pot and spread the coating with a brush or 
a sponge,
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > something easy.
> > 
> > Michel

Re: [Digital BW] Coating prints

2004-12-17 by Steve Kale

Glop is not a protective coating.  This would be applied after the glop and
ink is fully dried.
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> From: Chris Hargens <chargens@...>
> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 22:57:33 -0000
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Coating prints
> 
> 
> 
> I don't see why one couldn't do this by just filling one of MIS's
> 2200 virgin PK empties with glop and then switching over to use on
> multiple prints -- let's say 20, for example -- that have been
> carefully stored for coating. Doing a large batch at one time would
> offset the cost of switching cartridges, purging, etc. I'll probably
> give this a try if Print Shield turns out to be satisfactory. Of
> course, the problem of protecting the coated prints still remains.
> 
> Chris Hargens
> Chris Hargens--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> Steve Kale <stevekale@b...> wrote:
>> Michael
>> 
>> The driver end is easy.  Either use QTR and any slot or use the
> Epson driver
>> and overprint a 100% black "image" with the coating in the K slot.
>> 
>> The brush/sponge or even a mayer rod is, for my tastes, just a mess
> waiting
>> to happen.
>> 
>> Steve

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