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1290 with UT2 - blotchy prints?

1290 with UT2 - blotchy prints?

2004-12-22 by amazingtransplant

Hi,

I have waited for a while before posting this, after lengthy tests 
with various print settings, images and papers, and to isolate the 
problem to the inks or paper and not the printer or photograph. 

My current digital print configuration is a new 1290 printer with UT2 
inks using MIS carts, bottom filled as per instructions given on 
their website. The paper I'm using is Ilford Glossy Pearl,
printed 
using the Roark workflows and curves. Heads are cleaned and aligned, 
and I've tried various print settings, 1440dpi & 2880dpi, BO and 
finally reverting back to the original Epson inks as well as testing 
various grades of Epson papers (PGPP, heavyweight matte etc) and the 
problem remains – the prints are coming out `patchy',
looks like 
coalescence but I'm not sure. Basically the inks seem to
coagulate in 
the shadow areas instead of giving a smooth continuous tone as I 
would expect. I get better results when I reverted back to the 
original Epson dye inks – smoother tonal values, and any dither
is 
not discernible to the eye whereas with the UT2's its quite
apparent 
to the naked eye. So I'm not able to get a smooth tonal print
with 
the UT2s – is there something I'm missing?

I would appreciate any helpful comments in troubleshooting this 
problem. I've included a photo of the problem, shot through a 8X 
loupe. Thanks in advance!

Pete Chen


Image File:
http://sg.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/amazingtransplant/detail?.dir=/6d89&.
dnm=74f4.jpg

RE: [Digital BW] 1290 with UT2 - blotchy prints?

2004-12-22 by Paul Roark

Pete,

Be sure you're using the Ilford Galerie Smooth and not the Classic, which is
for dyes only.

If the paper is the pigment paper, then the dots are probably an indication
of overloading the paper.  The 1290 puts down more ink than the 1280, and
Ilford is sensitive to too much ink.  Back the ink load off with a media
type setting of glossy film or the like and see if the shadow dots
disappear.

Let me know what happens.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

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Subject: [Digital BW] 1290 with UT2 - blotchy prints?




Hi,

I have waited for a while before posting this, after lengthy tests 
with various print settings, images and papers, and to isolate the 
problem to the inks or paper and not the printer or photograph. 

My current digital print configuration is a new 1290 printer with UT2 
inks using MIS carts, bottom filled as per instructions given on 
their website. The paper I'm using is Ilford Glossy Pearl,
printed 
using the Roark workflows and curves. Heads are cleaned and aligned, 
and I've tried various print settings, 1440dpi & 2880dpi, BO and 
finally reverting back to the original Epson inks as well as testing 
various grades of Epson papers (PGPP, heavyweight matte etc) and the 
problem remains - the prints are coming out `patchy',
looks like 
coalescence but I'm not sure. Basically the inks seem to
coagulate in 
the shadow areas instead of giving a smooth continuous tone as I 
would expect. I get better results when I reverted back to the 
original Epson dye inks - smoother tonal values, and any dither
is 
not discernible to the eye whereas with the UT2's its quite
apparent 
to the naked eye. So I'm not able to get a smooth tonal print
with 
the UT2s - is there something I'm missing?

I would appreciate any helpful comments in troubleshooting this 
problem. I've included a photo of the problem, shot through a 8X 
loupe. Thanks in advance!

Pete Chen


Image File:
http://sg.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/amazingtransplant/detail?.dir=/6d89&.
dnm=74f4.jpg










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