Digital BW, The Print

I recently tried some glop on some color photos after letting them 
dry overnight -- Inkjetart's Micro Ceramic Gloss Plus, Epson UC 
inkset, 2200. Just to get a rough idea of how well glop would reduce 
bronzing, I both brushed it on and applied it by spraying with a 
bottle. In both cases the ink either smeared or ran down the print. I 
figure that if this would happen if applied crudely by hand, then it 
would also happen, though perhaps to a much lesser degree, if the 
glop were applied through a cart. Have any of you who are 
experimenting with glop had a similar experience?

Chris Hargens

I've only applied the glop via a 2200 printer using QTR profiles that 
put down glop in small amounts (ink limit = 10%) of glop as the print 
is made.  Takes awhile to dry completely but no smearing or ink 
running.  I've only used this so far for B&W prints, but found that the 
glop seems to be most effective in reducing bronzing when printed with 
the UT class inks (I have UT2 and UT-FSN inks in my 2200 with the 
glop).  I tried overcoating prints done previously in my 4000 with UC 
inks and although bronzing was reduced significantly it was not 
completely removed as with the glop/UT inks combination.  This 
overcoating on the UC prints was done with glop limits of 10% to 100% 
and there was no smearing or running.  You will need to remove pizza 
wheels (or front rollers for the 2200) from the printer used for glop 
application to avoid tracking marks.

Carl Schofield

On Jan 4, 2005, at 1:06 PM, Chris Hargens wrote:

>
>
> I recently tried some glop on some color photos after letting them
> dry overnight -- Inkjetart's Micro Ceramic Gloss Plus, Epson UC
> inkset, 2200. Just to get a rough idea of how well glop would reduce
> bronzing, I both brushed it on and applied it by spraying with a
> bottle. In both cases the ink either smeared or ran down the print. I
> figure that if this would happen if applied crudely by hand, then it
> would also happen, though perhaps to a much lesser degree, if the
> glop were applied through a cart. Have any of you who are
> experimenting with glop had a similar experience?
>
> Chris Hargens
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Thanks for the information. 

Chris Hargens


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield 
<scho@m...> wrote:
> I've only applied the glop via a 2200 printer using QTR profiles 
that 
> put down glop in small amounts (ink limit = 10%) of glop as the 
print 
> is made.  Takes awhile to dry completely but no smearing or ink 
> running.  I've only used this so far for B&W prints, but found that 
the 
> glop seems to be most effective in reducing bronzing when printed 
with 
> the UT class inks (I have UT2 and UT-FSN inks in my 2200 with the 
> glop).  I tried overcoating prints done previously in my 4000 with 
UC 
> inks and although bronzing was reduced significantly it was not 
> completely removed as with the glop/UT inks combination.  This 
> overcoating on the UC prints was done with glop limits of 10% to 
100% 
> and there was no smearing or running.  You will need to remove 
pizza 
> wheels (or front rollers for the 2200) from the printer used for 
glop 
> application to avoid tracking marks.
> 
> Carl Schofield
> 
> On Jan 4, 2005, at 1:06 PM, Chris Hargens wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > I recently tried some glop on some color photos after letting them
> > dry overnight -- Inkjetart's Micro Ceramic Gloss Plus, Epson UC
> > inkset, 2200. Just to get a rough idea of how well glop would 
reduce
> > bronzing, I both brushed it on and applied it by spraying with a
> > bottle. In both cases the ink either smeared or ran down the 
print. I
> > figure that if this would happen if applied crudely by hand, then 
it
> > would also happen, though perhaps to a much lesser degree, if the
> > glop were applied through a cart. Have any of you who are
> > experimenting with glop had a similar experience?
> >
> > Chris Hargens
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other 
> > resources as they are often being updated.
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digital 
> > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be 
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and 
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> > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, 
> > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER 
INTANGIBLE 
> > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE  "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE 
PRINT 
> > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH 
DAMAGES), 
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BW, 
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OF 
> > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY 
THIRD 

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I tried only one micro-ceramic paper, an Ilford glossy, and yes it 
bubbled, ran, and never dried. I believe Carl Schoffield had a 
similar experience. The glop does very well with Epson premium 
glossy, semi-gloss, lustre, semi-matte. Carl is reporting even 
better results with I believe the Ilford smooth pearl. Most times 
when I've tried sparaying it, I found I needed to give it 2-3 light 
coats, let it dry, check it for dry spots and do again if necessary. 
Semi gloss paper didn't need more, but the semi-matte seems to. Good 
thing is its very easy to get a smooth even coat, unlike some of the 
lacquers.

Steve Karafyllakis

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hargens" 
<chargens@s...> wrote:
> 
> I recently tried some glop on some color photos after letting them 
> dry overnight -- Inkjetart's Micro Ceramic Gloss Plus, Epson UC 
> inkset, 2200. Just to get a rough idea of how well glop would 
reduce 
> bronzing, I both brushed it on and applied it by spraying with a 
> bottle. In both cases the ink either smeared or ran down the 
print. I 
> figure that if this would happen if applied crudely by hand, then 
it 

> would also happen, though perhaps to a much lesser degree, if the 
> glop were applied through a cart. Have any of you who are 
> experimenting with glop had a similar experience?
> 
> Chris Hargens