Digital BW, The Print

Maybe I am just late to this but I don't think anyone had managed to remove the pizza 
wheels from the 21/2200.  I just printed a great print with glop and FSN inks only to find 
that it had pizza wheel marks all over it.  In short, I was prepared to wreck a printer trying 
to get rid of those damn wheels.

I have removed the pizza wheels and the printer still works.  I will test it over the next few 
days to see if there are any problems.

Removing the wheels was surprisingly easy.  I simply lifted the print head up with the lever 
to gain a little space.  I then got a fine screwdriver - the sort one uses to fix glasses, for 
example - and simply prized the wheels out from the top.  They clip down into place and 
simply spin on little springs (they are not spring loaded or anything, the "axle" they spin 
on is simply wound wire like a spring) and so popping them up is very easy.  I doubt there 
is any chance of getting them back though as the screwdriver damaged many of the little 
spring axles in the process.  Put your finger of your free hand over the wheel as you prize 
them out else they will simply fly anywhere - including into the interior of the printer.  

The wheels are not mechanically powered in any way.  They simply roll over the top of the 
paper.  As a result I am somewhat confidant their removal won't bother the printer in any 
way.

Don't bother unclipping the black thing they all clip into (as described in some other 
instructions for other printers).  Just lever each wheel out from the top, along with its axle.

Not that I think it matters, but I did all this with clips in place to lift up the rollers a la MIS' 
instructions.  They all stayed in place throughout the process.

Cheers

Steve

I have printed hundreds of prints on my 2200. I am quite critical of
imperfections. I have not noticed any issues that are related to the
pizza wheels. Is it possible that the printer is not functioning
properly and that is what is causing  your problem?


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Kale"
<stevekale@b...> wrote:
> 
> Maybe I am just late to this but I don't think anyone had managed to
remove the pizza 
> wheels from the 21/2200.  I just printed a great print with glop and
FSN inks only to find 
> that it had pizza wheel marks all over it.  In short, I was prepared
to wreck a printer trying 
> to get rid of those damn wheels.
> 
> I have removed the pizza wheels and the printer still works.  I will
test it over the next few 
> days to see if there are any problems.
> 
> Removing the wheels was surprisingly easy.  I simply lifted the
print head up with the lever 
> to gain a little space.  I then got a fine screwdriver - the sort
one uses to fix glasses, for 
> example - and simply prized the wheels out from the top.  They clip
down into place and 
> simply spin on little springs (they are not spring loaded or
anything, the "axle" they spin 
> on is simply wound wire like a spring) and so popping them up is
very easy.  I doubt there 
> is any chance of getting them back though as the screwdriver damaged
many of the little 
> spring axles in the process.  Put your finger of your free hand over
the wheel as you prize 
> them out else they will simply fly anywhere - including into the
interior of the printer.  
> 
> The wheels are not mechanically powered in any way.  They simply
roll over the top of the 
> paper.  As a result I am somewhat confidant their removal won't
bother the printer in any 
> way.
> 
> Don't bother unclipping the black thing they all clip into (as
described in some other 
> instructions for other printers).  Just lever each wheel out from
the top, along with its axle.
> 
> Not that I think it matters, but I did all this with clips in place
to lift up the rollers a la MIS' 

> instructions.  They all stayed in place throughout the process.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Steve

> I have printed hundreds of prints on my 2200. I am quite critical 
of
> imperfections. I have not noticed any issues that are related to 
the
> pizza wheels. Is it possible that the printer is not functioning
> properly and that is what is causing  your problem?

Take a glossy 2200 print out into the sun or put it under a bright 
light and tilt the print and you might see the dreaded pizza wheel 
tracks. They are generally invisible but once you see them they get 
under your skin and give you "crazy eyes".
-Jim

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jimpegoda"
<pegoda@c...> wrote:
> 
> 
> > I have printed hundreds of prints on my 2200. I am quite critical 
> of
> > imperfections. I have not noticed any issues that are related to 
> the
> > pizza wheels. Is it possible that the printer is not functioning
> > properly and that is what is causing  your problem?
> 
> Take a glossy 2200 print out into the sun or put it under a bright 
> light and tilt the print and you might see the dreaded pizza wheel 
> tracks. They are generally invisible but once you see them they get 
> under your skin and give you "crazy eyes".
> -Jim

Holy anchovies, Batman, where's my pizza (wheel marks)? Unless Epson
Premium Glossy Paper just isn't glossy enough, I'd have to assume I'm
blessed with one of the "special" non-marking 2200 printers--not a
trace of pizza wheel marks. And I know what they look like from the
old days-- printing with my SP 750 (with it you didn't need to go out
in the sun and tilt the print to a magic angle--they were quite
obvious in room light). I'm can't deny that some 2200 printers don't
have this problem, but perhaps there other options (i.e., a
readjustment of some kind) lass drastic than the wheelectomy
procedure. 

One consideration in this regard is the use of High Speed mode. I
never have used it, and I wonder if those getting pizza wheel marks
are generally using High Speed(?) This conceivably might be an issue
since those wheels contact the paper after the ink application, so if
there's less time to dry, the paper surface may be too soft at that
point (no pun intended). Or can you see the marks in the non-printed
areas, too?

Phil

I got rid of the problem without removing anything from my 2200.  All
I did was insert a small folded piece of paper under the metal housing
 that holds the pizza wheels.  The entire housing is hinged and can be
lifted about one-half an inch, creating a gap between the wheels and
their counterparts.  There is a white plastic wheel assembly on the
left side of the metal housing, this is where I inserted the piece of
paper (between the plastic wheel and the metal roller beneath).  This
wheel assemby is powered and rolls at the beginning of a print, so it
may take some trial and error to get the paper to stay, although mine
stays in place after some minor shifting.  Anyway, the idea is to get
the entire metal housing lifted just enough to pull the pizza wheels
away from the print surface, but not enough to block the print head
from sliding across the print (there is a very small margin of error
here I think, so be careful its not too high when attempting, I don't
know what would happen if the print head assembly struck the housing).

I'm sure there are other ways you can lift the metal housing, this is
just the way it worked for me.  Also this way, you can remove the
paper and but the printer back in original condition if needed.



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Kale"
<stevekale@b...> wrote:
> 
> Maybe I am just late to this but I don't think anyone had managed to
remove the pizza 
> wheels from the 21/2200.  I just printed a great print with glop and
FSN inks only to find 
> that it had pizza wheel marks all over it.  In short, I was prepared
to wreck a printer trying 
> to get rid of those damn wheels.
> 
> I have removed the pizza wheels and the printer still works.  I will
test it over the next few 
> days to see if there are any problems.
> 
> Removing the wheels was surprisingly easy.  I simply lifted the
print head up with the lever 
> to gain a little space.  I then got a fine screwdriver - the sort
one uses to fix glasses, for 
> example - and simply prized the wheels out from the top.  They clip
down into place and 
> simply spin on little springs (they are not spring loaded or
anything, the "axle" they spin 
> on is simply wound wire like a spring) and so popping them up is
very easy.  I doubt there 
> is any chance of getting them back though as the screwdriver damaged
many of the little 
> spring axles in the process.  Put your finger of your free hand over
the wheel as you prize 
> them out else they will simply fly anywhere - including into the
interior of the printer.  
> 
> The wheels are not mechanically powered in any way.  They simply
roll over the top of the 
> paper.  As a result I am somewhat confidant their removal won't
bother the printer in any 
> way.
> 
> Don't bother unclipping the black thing they all clip into (as
described in some other 
> instructions for other printers).  Just lever each wheel out from
the top, along with its axle.
> 
> Not that I think it matters, but I did all this with clips in place
to lift up the rollers a la MIS' 

> instructions.  They all stayed in place throughout the process.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Steve

I think a potential issue with that is that you are moving that whole
assembly closer to the print head.  I think if you had something like a very
fine pair of pliers (or were simply more careful prising the rollers up) you
could remove the pizza wheels without damaging the fine spring axle.  As I
got the hang of it I did not damage the last few.  In that case I think you
could potentially put them back.  They really did seem to simply be clipped
in with the fine axle there to simply keep them upright a little better and
hence avoid them jamming.

I have printed several prints since removing them on both A4 and A3 paper.
No issues thus far and no more pizza wheel marks.

> From: bghess_sp <bghess_sp@...>
> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:18:14 -0000
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Removing pizza wheels from the 21/2200
> 
> 
> 
> I got rid of the problem without removing anything from my 2200.  All
> I did was insert a small folded piece of paper under the metal housing
>  that holds the pizza wheels.  The entire housing is hinged and can be
> lifted about one-half an inch, creating a gap between the wheels and
> their counterparts.  There is a white plastic wheel assembly on the
> left side of the metal housing, this is where I inserted the piece of
> paper (between the plastic wheel and the metal roller beneath).  This
> wheel assemby is powered and rolls at the beginning of a print, so it
> may take some trial and error to get the paper to stay, although mine
> stays in place after some minor shifting.  Anyway, the idea is to get
> the entire metal housing lifted just enough to pull the pizza wheels
> away from the print surface, but not enough to block the print head
> from sliding across the print (there is a very small margin of error
> here I think, so be careful its not too high when attempting, I don't
> know what would happen if the print head assembly struck the housing).
> 
> I'm sure there are other ways you can lift the metal housing, this is
> just the way it worked for me.  Also this way, you can remove the
> paper and but the printer back in original condition if needed.
> 
>