Digital BW, The Print

Is there any software that can make the Epson 2200 use the light and dark 
black inks only?  Would that still allow the printer to make normal colour 
prints?

Thanks

Yes, QTR or IJC/OPM.  The warm or "carbon" profiles created with these 
RIPs use only the black and light black inks.

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Hello:  It's not advisable to print with the light and dark black inks 
only;  the resulting image will not have the full resolution that 
printing with
all 7 inks affords.  Peter

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QuadToneRIP will do this. Also other Raster Image Processors (RIPs).
 
 
-Stephen
 www.sbillard.org/Stephen

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Subject: [Digital BW] Light Black/Dark Black/Matte Black




Is there any software that can make the Epson 2200 use the light and dark 
black inks only?  Would that still allow the printer to make normal colour 
prints?

Thanks








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Thanks for the additional info, Peter, I'll keep that in mind.  

I've been looking at the "Getting Started with QuadToneRIP 2.0" and I'm 
finding this really compicated.  Am I right in thinking there's going to be a 
pretty steep learning curve?  I haven't loaded the software yet, and I haven't 
decided to buy any additional inks.  I want to see if I can make a print with a 
neutral tone using Epson UC inks first.  I just don't have a clue how to begin.

peter


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Peter Gorwin <
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> Hello:  It's not advisable to print with the light and dark black inks 
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Thanks, Stephen.  I've downloaded QTR and I'm plodding throught the info.  I 
hope I can figure out how to do this.

peter


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Billard" <
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No, for the Ultrachrome set up it is not difficult at all. Just download the gimp print driver 
accessable there, download the qtr, and click on the install curves folder for Ultrachrome 
2200. It will self load. Then restart the computer and add the printer into the OS ( it is 
quite easy in OSX) and choose this driver to print out of instead of the standard Epson 
driver. It will not effect your ability to access the Epson driver for color etc. The driver will 
be called Quad Tone 2200 or something like that. Just follow the directions in the proper 
sequence and you will be fine. Ignore all the information about custom linearizing your 
printer. You do not need to do that with the newer Epson Ultrachrome machines. There is 
more information in that packet than you need concern yourself with.


John



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "krn_ptr" <krn_ptr@y...> wrote:

> 
> Thanks for the additional info, Peter, I'll keep that in mind.  
> 
> I've been looking at the "Getting Started with QuadToneRIP 2.0" and I'm 
> finding this really compicated.  Am I right in thinking there's going to be a 
> pretty steep learning curve?  I haven't loaded the software yet, and I haven't 
> decided to buy any additional inks.  I want to see if I can make a print with a 
> neutral tone using Epson UC inks first.  I just don't have a clue how to begin.
> 
> peter
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Peter Gorwin <
> pshelleyg@c...> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello:  It's not advisable to print with the light and dark black inks 
> > only;  the resulting image will not have the full resolution that 
> > printing with
> > all 7 inks affords.  Peter
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Thanks for the reassurance and advice, John.  All that stuff does sound a little 
intimidating.  I'll try going with your suggestions and see what happens.  

I have one other Issue -- probably minor.  I have to use Classic/PS 7 to access 
the Manual Feed for the Velvet Fine Art paper that I'm using.  Is that going to 
make any difference?  (For example, I did notice that Epson's updated profiles 
don't show up as options in Classic, though they do in OSX.)

Cheers,

peter


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" <
deanwork2003@y...> wrote:
> 
> No, for the Ultrachrome set up it is not difficult at all. Just download the gimp 
print driver 
> accessable there, download the qtr, and click on the install curves folder for 
Ultrachrome 
> 2200. It will self load. Then restart the computer and add the printer into the 
OS ( it is 
> quite easy in OSX) and choose this driver to print out of instead of the 
standard Epson 
> driver. It will not effect your ability to access the Epson driver for color etc. 
The driver will 
> be called Quad Tone 2200 or something like that. Just follow the directions 
in the proper 
> sequence and you will be fine. Ignore all the information about custom 
linearizing your 
> printer. You do not need to do that with the newer Epson Ultrachrome 
machines. There is 

> more information in that packet than you need concern yourself with.
> 
> 
> John
>

I belive Epson has updated these drivers to fix the manual feed situation. One of my 
students had this problem months ago on a  2200 and he updated to the newest driver 
and that was resolved. Go to the Epson website and If I were you I would forget about OS 9 
completely. Pretend it dosen't exist anymore and you will be in much better shape. 
Nothing is being updated to work in Classic . If you don't have Panther get it. 

John

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> Thanks for the reassurance and advice, John.  All that stuff does sound a little 
> intimidating.  I'll try going with your suggestions and see what happens.  
> 
> I have one other Issue -- probably minor.  I have to use Classic/PS 7 to access 
> the Manual Feed for the Velvet Fine Art paper that I'm using.  Is that going to 
> make any difference?  (For example, I did notice that Epson's updated profiles 
> don't show up as options in Classic, though they do in OSX.)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> pe

I'm not even sure I have the latest Epson driver, and I'm using OS 10.2.8,  but I can 
use the manual feed slot 
just by loading the paper there (with the lever all the way down>then press the paper 
button after moving the lever up to envelope, and the printer adjusts its position). I 
simply click on print when I'm ready, and the photo prints. 
Sarah
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" 
<deanwork2003@y...> wrote:
> 
> I belive Epson has updated these drivers to fix the manual feed situation. One of 
my 
> students had this problem months ago on a  2200 and he updated to the newest 
driver 
> and that was resolved. Go to the Epson website and If I were you I would forget 
about OS 9 

> completely. Pretend it dosen't exist anymore and you will be in much better shape. 
> Nothing is being updated to work in Classic . If you don't have Panther get it. 
> 
> John
> > 
> > Thanks for the reassurance and advice, John.  All that stuff does sound a little 
> > intimidating.  I'll try going with your suggestions and see what happens.  
> > 
> > I have one other Issue -- probably minor.  I have to use Classic/PS 7 to access 
> > the Manual Feed for the Velvet Fine Art paper that I'm using.  Is that going to 
> > make any difference?  (For example, I did notice that Epson's updated profiles 
> > don't show up as options in Classic, though they do in OSX.)
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > pe

Hi Sarah,

Are you printing from QUAD2200?  When I do, I just get an "Invalid printer 
settings" warning.  I can't seem to print from that driver at all.

When I print from Epson 2200 Firewire of USB it prints fine, but I haven't 
managed to get it to print from the manual feed slot.  I didn't try pressing the 
paper button.  I'll try that after dinner.

Thanks for your comments.

peter


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jessupsa" <
sjessup@c...> wrote:
> 
> I'm not even sure I have the latest Epson driver, and I'm using OS 10.2.8,  
but I can 
> use the manual feed slot 
> just by loading the paper there (with the lever all the way down>then press 
the paper 
> button after moving the lever up to envelope, and the printer adjusts its 
position). I 
> simply click on print when I'm ready, and the photo prints. 
> Sarah
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" 
> <deanwork2003@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > I belive Epson has updated these drivers to fix the manual feed situation. 
One of 
> my 
> > students had this problem months ago on a  2200 and he updated to the 
newest 
> driver 
> > and that was resolved. Go to the Epson website and If I were you I would 
forget 
> about OS 9 
> > completely. Pretend it dosen't exist anymore and you will be in much 
better shape. 
> > Nothing is being updated to work in Classic . If you don't have Panther get 
it. 
> > 
> > John
> > > 
> > > Thanks for the reassurance and advice, John.  All that stuff does sound 
a little 
> > > intimidating.  I'll try going with your suggestions and see what happens.  
> > > 
> > > I have one other Issue -- probably minor.  I have to use Classic/PS 7 to 
access 
> > > the Manual Feed for the Velvet Fine Art paper that I'm using.  Is that 
going to 
> > > make any difference?  (For example, I did notice that Epson's updated 
profiles 

> > > don't show up as options in Classic, though they do in OSX.)
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > 
> > > pe

Peter,
Are you saying youcan't print from QUAD 2200 at all, or just using the straight feed 
slot?
If you can't print from QUAD2200, maybe you need to add it (in Print Center if you're 
using OS 10.2+ or from System preferences>Print and fax>Set up printers if you're 
using Panther). You need to select QUAD 2200 in the Page Setup section as well as in 
the "Print" section.
Sarah
-- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "krn_ptr" <krn_ptr@y...> 
wrote:

> 
> Hi Sarah,
> 
> Are you printing from QUAD2200?  When I do, I just get an "Invalid printer 
> settings" warning.  I can't seem to print from that driver at all.
> 
> When I print from Epson 2200 Firewire of USB it prints fine, but I haven't 
> managed to get it to print from the manual feed slot.  I didn't try pressing the 
> paper button.  I'll try that after dinner.
> 
> Thanks for your comments.
> 
> peter
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jessupsa" <
> sjessup@c...> wrote:
> > 
> > I'm not even sure I have the latest Epson driver, and I'm using OS 10.2.8,  
> but I can 
> > use the manual feed slot 
> > just by loading the paper there (with the lever all the way down>then press 
> the paper 
> > button after moving the lever up to envelope, and the printer adjusts its 
> position). I 
> > simply click on print when I'm ready, and the photo prints. 
> > Sarah
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" 
> > <deanwork2003@y...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > I belive Epson has updated these drivers to fix the manual feed situation. 
> One of 
> > my 
> > > students had this problem months ago on a  2200 and he updated to the 
> newest 
> > driver 
> > > and that was resolved. Go to the Epson website and If I were you I would 
> forget 
> > about OS 9 
> > > completely. Pretend it dosen't exist anymore and you will be in much 
> better shape. 
> > > Nothing is being updated to work in Classic . If you don't have Panther get 
> it. 
> > > 
> > > John
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for the reassurance and advice, John.  All that stuff does sound 
> a little 
> > > > intimidating.  I'll try going with your suggestions and see what happens.  
> > > > 
> > > > I have one other Issue -- probably minor.  I have to use Classic/PS 7 to 
> access 
> > > > the Manual Feed for the Velvet Fine Art paper that I'm using.  Is that 
> going to 
> > > > make any difference?  (For example, I did notice that Epson's updated 
> profiles 
> > > > don't show up as options in Classic, though they do in OSX.)
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > 
> > > > pe

Hi Sarah,

I tried your method for manual feed and it worked fine with the Epson USB 
driver.  I haven't  tried it with Firewire yet.  I wasn't pressing the button to get 
the printer to adjust the paper position. That made all the difference.  I don't 
have to do that in Classic.  Then again, in Classic, you have the option of 
choosing manual feed.  Either way, I'm really relieved I don't have to go into 
Classic to print on thicker paper.  Thanks for that.

I'm still not able to print from the QUAD2200 driver.  Yes, I have selected it in 
all the places you mentioned (I'm on Panther 3.5).  

When I click Print, the  QUAD2200 print driver comes up in the dock and it 
says it's going to print the document listed, but it just doesn't seem to be able 
to do it, and then the job vanishes from the list and it says, "no print jobs" and 
that's it.  A couple of times it said, "Invalid printer settings" but it hasn't done 
that recently.

Another odd thing, is that the QTR curves 1 and 2 don't always appear in the 
print dialogue box, even though the Blend Curves option is there.  I must be 
doing something wrong, but I can't figure out what it is.

peter



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jessupsa" <
sjessup@c...> wrote:
> 
> Peter,
> Are you saying youcan't print from QUAD 2200 at all, or just using the 
straight feed 
> slot?
> If you can't print from QUAD2200, maybe you need to add it (in Print Center 
if you're 
> using OS 10.2+ or from System preferences>Print and fax>Set up printers if 
you're 
> using Panther). You need to select QUAD 2200 in the Page Setup section 
as well as in 
> the "Print" section.
> Sarah
> -- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "krn_ptr" <
krn_ptr@y...> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Sarah,
> > 
> > Are you printing from QUAD2200?  When I do, I just get an "Invalid printer 
> > settings" warning.  I can't seem to print from that driver at all.
> > 
> > When I print from Epson 2200 Firewire of USB it prints fine, but I haven't 
> > managed to get it to print from the manual feed slot.  I didn't try pressing 
the 
> > paper button.  I'll try that after dinner.
> > 
> > Thanks for your comments.
> > 
> > peter
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jessupsa" <
> > sjessup@c...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > I'm not even sure I have the latest Epson driver, and I'm using OS 10.2.8,  
> > but I can 
> > > use the manual feed slot 
> > > just by loading the paper there (with the lever all the way down>then 
press 
> > the paper 
> > > button after moving the lever up to envelope, and the printer adjusts its 
> > position). I 
> > > simply click on print when I'm ready, and the photo prints. 
> > > Sarah
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" 
> > > <deanwork2003@y...> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I belive Epson has updated these drivers to fix the manual feed 
situation. 
> > One of 
> > > my 
> > > > students had this problem months ago on a  2200 and he updated to 
the 
> > newest 
> > > driver 
> > > > and that was resolved. Go to the Epson website and If I were you I 
would 
> > forget 
> > > about OS 9 
> > > > completely. Pretend it dosen't exist anymore and you will be in much 
> > better shape. 
> > > > Nothing is being updated to work in Classic . If you don't have Panther 
get 
> > it. 
> > > > 
> > > > John
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks for the reassurance and advice, John.  All that stuff does 
sound 
> > a little 
> > > > > intimidating.  I'll try going with your suggestions and see what 
happens.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have one other Issue -- probably minor.  I have to use Classic/PS 7 
to 
> > access 
> > > > > the Manual Feed for the Velvet Fine Art paper that I'm using.  Is that 
> > going to 
> > > > > make any difference?  (For example, I did notice that Epson's 
updated 

> > profiles 
> > > > > don't show up as options in Classic, though they do in OSX.)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > 
> > > > > pe

Peter,
This sounds like something with QTR installation rather than your system. It might 
require reinstalling the program, but maybe Roy or one of the folks involved in 
development will have a better idea.
Sarah
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "krn_ptr" <krn_ptr@y...> 
wrote:
> 
snip

> I'm still not able to print from the QUAD2200 driver.  Yes, I have selected it in 
> all the places you mentioned (I'm on Panther 3.5).  
> 
> When I click Print, the  QUAD2200 print driver comes up in the dock and it 
> says it's going to print the document listed, but it just doesn't seem to be able 
> to do it, and then the job vanishes from the list and it says, "no print jobs" and 
> that's it.  A couple of times it said, "Invalid printer settings" but it hasn't done 
> that recently.
> 
> Another odd thing, is that the QTR curves 1 and 2 don't always appear in the 
> print dialogue box, even though the Blend Curves option is there.  I must be 
> doing something wrong, but I can't figure out what it is.
> 
> peter
> 
> 
> 
> -snip

Thanks again, Sarah.  Cris figured out the problem.  A limitation of the driver, 
apparently. Only someone who'd run into it would know about.  I hadn't found it 
in the archive.  It seems that the 2200 can't use the 2880 resolution setting 
that's available in the pull-down.  

Anyway, I've seen my first print and it looks very neutral, which is what I'm 
after.  I'm going to have to find profiles for the paper I already have in stock 
(Velvet Fine Art) because the density is a little low compared to the monitor and 
the Epson driver print (which looks green in daylight).  

I'm using the PFA profile supplied with the download.  Perhaps PFA has 
different ink absorbtion to VFA.  I'd like to get the prints a little darker, closer to 
the monitor and the density of the Epson driver print.

Thanks again for your help.

peter



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jessupsa" <
sjessup@c...> wrote:
> 
> Peter,
> This sounds like something with QTR installation rather than your system. It 
might 
> require reinstalling the program, but maybe Roy or one of the folks involved 
in 
> development will have a better idea.
> Sarah
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "krn_ptr" <
krn_ptr@y...> 
> wrote:
> > 
> snip
> > I'm still not able to print from the QUAD2200 driver.  Yes, I have selected it 
in 
> > all the places you mentioned (I'm on Panther 3.5).  
> > 
> > When I click Print, the  QUAD2200 print driver comes up in the dock and it 
> > says it's going to print the document listed, but it just doesn't seem to be 
able 
> > to do it, and then the job vanishes from the list and it says, "no print jobs" 
and 
> > that's it.  A couple of times it said, "Invalid printer settings" but it hasn't done 
> > that recently.
> > 
> > Another odd thing, is that the QTR curves 1 and 2 don't always appear in 
the 
> > print dialogue box, even though the Blend Curves option is there.  I must 
be 

> > doing something wrong, but I can't figure out what it is.
> > 
> > peter
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -snip

Peter,
I've had good results using the profiles for EEM for VFA.
Sarah
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "krn_ptr" <krn_ptr@y...> 
wrote:
snip
  I'm going to have to find profiles for the paper I already have in stock 

> (Velvet Fine Art) because the density is a little low compared to the monitor and 
> the Epson driver print (which looks green in daylight).  
> 
> I'm using the PFA profile supplied with the download.  Perhaps PFA has 
> different ink absorbtion to VFA.  I'd like to get the prints a little darker, closer to 
> the monitor and the density of the Epson driver print.
> 
> Thanks again for your help.
> 
> peter
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jessupsa" <
> sjessup@c...> wrote:
> > 
> > Peter,
> > This sounds like something with QTR installation rather than your system. It 
> might 
> > require reinstalling the program, but maybe Roy or one of the folks involved 
> in 
> > development will have a better idea.
> > Sarah
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "krn_ptr" <
> krn_ptr@y...> 
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > snip
> > > I'm still not able to print from the QUAD2200 driver.  Yes, I have selected it 
> in 
> > > all the places you mentioned (I'm on Panther 3.5).  
> > > 
> > > When I click Print, the  QUAD2200 print driver comes up in the dock and it 
> > > says it's going to print the document listed, but it just doesn't seem to be 
> able 
> > > to do it, and then the job vanishes from the list and it says, "no print jobs" 
> and 
> > > that's it.  A couple of times it said, "Invalid printer settings" but it hasn't done 
> > > that recently.
> > > 
> > > Another odd thing, is that the QTR curves 1 and 2 don't always appear in 
> the 
> > > print dialogue box, even though the Blend Curves option is there.  I must 
> be 
> > > doing something wrong, but I can't figure out what it is.
> > > 
> > > peter
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -snip

Thanks for the tip, Sarah.  I'll give it a try later today or tomorrow.  Is there a 
simple way of increasing the density, contrast etc. in QTR? 

I notice there are "Expert" setting options, but I don't know when or how to 
access them.  I'd like to know how to make these easier (?) adjustments 
before getting into what looks like a serious learning curve to produce profiles 
and use non-Epson inks.  

I see there is a QTRGui for Windows.  Is there anything like that for Mac?  QTR 
seems to be really useful software, but it's a little confusing for the new-comer.  
I've worked in a darkroom for ages, but I'm not that familiar with inks and 
printing theory.  A friendly interface would help QTR a lot.  Do you have any 
experience with IJC/OPM?  Their site claims a faster way to reach the first 
print and seems to be suggesting a slicker interface.  They don't offer a free 
trial as far as I can see.

peter




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jessupsa" <
sjessup@c...> wrote:
> 
> Peter,
> I've had good results using the profiles for EEM for VFA.
> Sarah



> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "krn_ptr" <
krn_ptr@y...> 
> wrote:
> snip
>   I'm going to have to find profiles for the paper I already have in stock 
> > (Velvet Fine Art) because the density is a little low compared to the 
monitor and 
> > the Epson driver print (which looks green in daylight).  
> > 
> > I'm using the PFA profile supplied with the download.  Perhaps PFA has 
> > different ink absorbtion to VFA.  I'd like to get the prints a little darker, 
closer to 

> > the monitor and the density of the Epson driver print.
> > 
> > Thanks again for your help.
> > 
> > peter
> >