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2005-04-05 by jdoyle1713
Hi Gang Just a quick Question .. Would There be an Interest For a 12 x 12 Sheet Size In a Archival Paper..? Or is there a size that everybody wants but cant get? thanks For The Input.. Best Jim Doyle http://www.shadesofpaper.com
2005-04-05 by Mark Savoia
12 foot by 12 foot, are you selling the printer too :) Mark On Apr 4, 2005, at 10:27 PM, jdoyle1713 wrote: > > Hi Gang > > Just a quick Question .. Would There be an Interest For a 12 x 12 > Sheet Size In a Archival Paper..? > > Or is there a size that everybody wants but cant get? > > thanks For The Input.. > > Best > Jim Doyle > http://www.shadesofpaper.com > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from > the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > Owner and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� in the > Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE �OWNER� > AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE� �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > � To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > � > � To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > � > � Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005-04-05 by Nick H. Nugent
Hi Jim, I'd like 12x13 (or 12x12.5 to be exact). There is a line of Kolo album which accepts 12x12.5 sheets, but 12x13 should be fine as it gives you a little more room to play with. Currently I have to get the 13x19 size for this album. By the way the Innova Soft Texture is fantastic. The strange thing about it is it appears to have much larger color gamut with slightly deeper black than Photo Rag, but when superimposed on a PR profile it is almost identical though only slightly larger. Maybe this slightly larger color gamut gives it the extra visible pop. The paper surface is definitely more scuff resistant. I don't think I need to coat this paper at all. --nick --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jdoyle1713" <jdoyle1713@c...> wrote:
> > Hi Gang > > Just a quick Question .. Would There be an Interest For a 12 x 12 > Sheet Size In a Archival Paper..? Or is there a size that everybody > wants but cant get? thanks For The Input.. > > Best > Jim Doyle > http://www.shadesofpaper.com
2005-04-05 by Jim Doyle
The Reason I Ask is That I have been getting alot of request for different or special cut size sheets so I may have Innova make a batch to see how it goes.. Glad To Hear The Success story with the Innova Papers!! Thanks Gang:) Jim Doyle J. Doyle Enterprises LLC 114 Old Orchard Rd Cherry Hill, NJ 08003 856-424-8660 http;//www.shadesofpaper.com AOL IM: Brokerup99
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick H. Nugent [mailto:nghin@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 11:48 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Paper Size
Hi Jim,
I'd like 12x13 (or 12x12.5 to be exact). There is a line of Kolo album
which accepts 12x12.5 sheets, but 12x13 should be fine as it gives you
a little more room to play with. Currently I have to get the 13x19
size for this album.
By the way the Innova Soft Texture is fantastic. The strange thing
about it is it appears to have much larger color gamut with slightly
deeper black than Photo Rag, but when superimposed on a PR profile it
is almost identical though only slightly larger. Maybe this slightly
larger color gamut gives it the extra visible pop. The paper surface
is definitely more scuff resistant. I don't think I need to coat this
paper at all.
--nick
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jdoyle1713"
<jdoyle1713@c...> wrote:
>
> Hi Gang
>
> Just a quick Question .. Would There be an Interest For a 12 x 12
> Sheet Size In a Archival Paper..? Or is there a size that everybody
> wants but cant get? thanks For The Input..
>
> Best
> Jim Doyle
> http://www.shadesofpaper.com
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2005-04-05 by hogarth@snappydsl.net
In that case, how about get them to slit some 13" rolls? I would like to proof on the actual paper, but making working prints on 24" or larger rolls is pretty wasteful. -- Bruce Watson Jim Doyle wrote:
> The Reason I Ask is That I have been getting alot of request for different > or special cut size sheets so I may have Innova make a batch to see how it > goes.. > > Glad To Hear The Success story with the Innova Papers!! > > Thanks Gang:) > > Jim Doyle
2005-04-05 by Jim Doyle
Bruce 17 inch are available.. do you think 13inch rolls would sell? I mean That is preety easy to make happen.. Easier Than sheets..Because of packaging issues Cheers Jim Doyle J. Doyle Enterprises LLC 114 Old Orchard Rd Cherry Hill, NJ 08003 856-424-8660 www.shadesofpaper.com AOL IM: Brokerup99
-----Original Message-----
From: hogarth@... [mailto:hogarth@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:40 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Paper Size
In that case, how about get them to slit some 13" rolls? I would like to
proof on the actual paper, but making working prints on 24" or larger
rolls is pretty wasteful.
--
Bruce Watson
Jim Doyle wrote:
> The Reason I Ask is That I have been getting alot of request for
different
> or special cut size sheets so I may have Innova make a batch to see how
it
> goes..
>
> Glad To Hear The Success story with the Innova Papers!!
>
> Thanks Gang:)
>
> Jim Doyle
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2005-04-05 by Paul Roark
Jim, > ... Would There be an Interest For a 12 x 12 > Sheet Size In a Archival Paper..? As I'm sure you know, the "scrap bookers" use 12 x 12. I'd think a double-sided version similar to the Epson Scrapbook paper (close to the PremierArt 205) might be able to be marketed to that rather large crowd. Some of these papers use a type of binding that allows an unbroken 12 x 24 inch double-page panorama in a table-top book. I think that type of arrangement could have significant appeal to photographers. A 12 x 12 book layout also allows vertical and horizontal photos to be equally presentable. In short, I think the 12 x 12 has significant potential if it is targeted at the book, photo-album, & scrapbook markets. In that market, I suspect the durability and abrasion resistance of Epson Scrapbook-PremierArt Hot Press will be more important than the higher dmax of the Innova papers. I'm not sure if Innova has a paper that is specifically formulated for that type of use. Paul www.PaulRoark.com
2005-04-05 by hogarth@snappydsl.net
I'll I can tell you is that I've been buying 13" rolls of Hahnemuhle Photo Rag 308 gsm for this purpose. With the built-in cutter on my 7600, this is a nice way to go - I can make small proofs, somewhat larger proofs, portfolio prints, and the smallest size in my line all from a 13" roll with little wastage. When I was working in the darkroom, I'd proof on 8x10 inch sheets (cut from 16x20 inch sheets) before I printed something bigger. With ink and paper prices being as high as they are, I don't see why I'd want to change that methodology. -- Bruce Watson Jim Doyle wrote:
>Bruce > >17 inch are available.. do you think 13inch rolls would sell? I mean That is >preety easy to make happen.. Easier Than sheets..Because of packaging issues > >Cheers > >Jim Doyle > > > > >
2005-04-05 by Jim Doyle
Paul ,Walker & Nick thanks for the feedback.. It is real helpful.. and you mark I 'll sell You a Printer That Big:) Cheers Jim Doyle J. Doyle Enterprises LLC 114 Old Orchard Rd Cherry Hill, NJ 08003 856-424-8660 www.shadesofpaper.com AOL IM: Brokerup99
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Roark [mailto:paul.roark@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:51 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Paper Size
Jim,
> ... Would There be an Interest For a 12 x 12
> Sheet Size In a Archival Paper..?
As I'm sure you know, the "scrap bookers" use 12 x 12. I'd think a
double-sided version similar to the Epson Scrapbook paper (close to the
PremierArt 205) might be able to be marketed to that rather large crowd.
Some of these papers use a type of binding that allows an unbroken 12 x 24
inch double-page panorama in a table-top book. I think that type of
arrangement could have significant appeal to photographers.
A 12 x 12 book layout also allows vertical and horizontal photos to be
equally presentable.
In short, I think the 12 x 12 has significant potential if it is targeted
at
the book, photo-album, & scrapbook markets.
In that market, I suspect the durability and abrasion resistance of Epson
Scrapbook-PremierArt Hot Press will be more important than the higher dmax
of the Innova papers. I'm not sure if Innova has a paper that is
specifically formulated for that type of use.
Paul
www.PaulRoark.com
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2005-04-05 by Jim Doyle
bruce yes I see your point.. I wont Cut rolls for my customers to Many damges and lots of waste.. Hahnemuhle Doesnt offer a 13 inch roll thats why I dont carry it.. However I Could Have a Batch run of these made..I'll look into it.. Thanks I appreciate the feedback Jim Doyle J. Doyle Enterprises LLC 114 Old Orchard Rd Cherry Hill, NJ 08003 856-424-8660 www.shadesofpaper.com AOL IM: Brokerup99
-----Original Message-----
From: hogarth@snappydsl.net [mailto:hogarth@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:04 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Paper Size
I'll I can tell you is that I've been buying 13" rolls of Hahnemuhle
Photo Rag 308 gsm for this purpose. With the built-in cutter on my 7600,
this is a nice way to go - I can make small proofs, somewhat larger
proofs, portfolio prints, and the smallest size in my line all from a
13" roll with little wastage.
When I was working in the darkroom, I'd proof on 8x10 inch sheets (cut
from 16x20 inch sheets) before I printed something bigger. With ink and
paper prices being as high as they are, I don't see why I'd want to
change that methodology.
--
Bruce Watson
Jim Doyle wrote:
>Bruce
>
>17 inch are available.. do you think 13inch rolls would sell? I mean That
is
>preety easy to make happen.. Easier Than sheets..Because of packaging
issues
>
>Cheers
>
>Jim Doyle
>
>
>
>
>
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2005-04-06 by dfaprinting
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Doyle" <jdoyle1713@c...> wrote: > Paul ,Walker & Nick > > thanks for the feedback.. It is real helpful.. and you mark I 'll sell You a > Printer That Big:) > > Cheers > > Jim Doyle > > > J. Doyle Enterprises LLC > 114 Old Orchard Rd > Cherry Hill, NJ 08003 > 856-424-8660 > www.shadesofpaper.com > AOL IM: Brokerup99 > They make them. They're called billboard printers, and they work at things like 50 dpi. The prints look great while you are driving down the road, but get up close to them......