Digital BW, The Print

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  From: Peter Aronson [mailto:groups@...]
  Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 8:25 PM
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Digital BW] Epson 4000 paper question



  I need help identifying some mystery paper...

  A client of mine wants an 11x14 print and I'm out of inks at the
  moment, and because of the logistical difficulties of getting stuff
  sent here to Mexico City quickly and economically, I've been looking
  at the possibility of just having a lab print this one image rather
  than waiting until my supplies arrive. The client isn't especially
  interested in the process as long as it's going to last.

  At one reputable local lab, they offered me several options:

  -Print on H. German Etching using an Epson 4000 and Epson OEM
  Ultrachrome inks... for 40 dollars(!). I saw an example and wasn't
  very impressed with the dmax or what seemed to be the very warm tone
  of the paper (nothing against warm paper, just not right for this
  image). I don't know whether it's even necessary, but it also seems
  they don't brush the paper before printing.

  -Print on the same 4000 using the same inks but using some
  unidentified Epson roll paper with a lustre finish (which they called
  matte, but it's a kind of bumpy RC look)... for about 7 dollars.

  -Print on Fuji Crystal Archive paper using a photochemical process.

  I asked them to make me one each of the last two, but I was wondering
  if anyone can help me identify this mystery paper so I can determine
  the print's likely longevity. The technician, obviously not an expert
  in inkjet printing, tried to convince me that the print's longevity is
  determined solely by the type of inks used (UC) and has nothing to do
  with the paper. (Ummm....)

  I asked 3 people at the lab and none of them could tell me which Epson
  paper it is, just that, you know, it's photo paper made by Epson. They
  had several rolls of it on hand, but none were in boxes, just wrapped
  in plastic.

  Any ideas as to what this paper might be and how archival (if at all)
  this print will be?

  Peter





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> 
> I need help identifying some mystery paper...
> 
> A client of mine wants an 11x14 print and I'm out of inks at the
> moment, and because of the logistical difficulties of getting stuff
> sent here to Mexico City quickly and economically, I've been looking
> at the possibility of just having a lab print this one image rather
> than waiting until my supplies arrive. The client isn't especially
> interested in the process as long as it's going to last.
> 
> At one reputable local lab, they offered me several options:
> 
> -Print on H. German Etching using an Epson 4000 and Epson OEM
> Ultrachrome inks... for 40 dollars(!). I saw an example and wasn't
> very impressed with the dmax or what seemed to be the very warm tone
> of the paper (nothing against warm paper, just not right for this
> image). I don't know whether it's even necessary, but it also seems
> they don't brush the paper before printing.
> 
> -Print on the same 4000 using the same inks but using some
> unidentified Epson roll paper with a lustre finish (which they called
> matte, but it's a kind of bumpy RC look)... for about 7 dollars.
> 
> -Print on Fuji Crystal Archive paper using a photochemical process.
> 
> I asked them to make me one each of the last two, but I was wondering
> if anyone can help me identify this mystery paper so I can determine
> the print's likely longevity. The technician, obviously not an expert
> in inkjet printing, tried to convince me that the print's longevity is
> determined solely by the type of inks used (UC) and has nothing to do
> with the paper. (Ummm....)
> 
> I asked 3 people at the lab and none of them could tell me which Epson
> paper it is, just that, you know, it's photo paper made by Epson. They
> had several rolls of it on hand, but none were in boxes, just wrapped
> in plastic.
> 
> Any ideas as to what this paper might be and how archival (if at all)
> this print will be?
> 
> Peter