Digital BW, The Print

I just read this, googled around and found other mentions of the same.
Any info on this?

Scott

I'm hearing there's a replacement for the 76-9600 printers that use the 
same print engine as the 4000. The new printers will be called 7800 and 
9800.

Time frame? By June 01, is my guess,fwiw.

We'll just have to wait and see.

(Another) Scott


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Scott McLoughlin 
<scott@a...> wrote:

> I just read this, googled around and found other mentions of the same.
> Any info on this?
> 
> Scott

> I'm hearing there's a replacement for the 76-9600 printers 
> that use the same print engine as the 4000. The new printers 
> will be called 7800 and 9800.
> 
> Time frame? By June 01, is my guess,fwiw.

More grist for the rumor mill.

I was at K&S in Palo Alto the other day looking to demo and possibly buy a
7600.

The salesman dissuaded me from even looking because he said "pretty soon"
Epson will be coming out with a replacement for the 7600 and I should wait
for the new printer.

I don't think a sales guy would turn down a several thousand dollar sale
unless there really was a new printer coming out...

He wouldn't give me any details (or didn't know), he just told me to keep
checking the Epson Web site for new printer announcements. :-)

Paul

Hi Paul,


The source of my info thought the printers were already released when 
he told me about the "replacements". That was about 10 days ago.

Someone else emailed me and said new printers will be announced at 
the end of April.

I think we should hear something by June, fwiw.


Scott



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul A. 
Yesnosky" <pyesnosky@c...> wrote:
> > I'm hearing there's a replacement for the 76-9600 printers 
> > that use the same print engine as the 4000. The new printers 
> > will be called 7800 and 9800.
> > 
> > Time frame? By June 01, is my guess,fwiw.
> 
> More grist for the rumor mill.
> 
> I was at K&S in Palo Alto the other day looking to demo and 
possibly buy a
> 7600.
> 
> The salesman dissuaded me from even looking because he said "pretty 
soon"
> Epson will be coming out with a replacement for the 7600 and I 
should wait
> for the new printer.
> 
> I don't think a sales guy would turn down a several thousand dollar 
sale
> unless there really was a new printer coming out...
> 
> He wouldn't give me any details (or didn't know), he just told me 
to keep

> checking the Epson Web site for new printer announcements. :-)
> 
> Paul

I vaguely remember reading on a printing forum (think on dpreview)several times that the 2200 replacement had been released in Japan earlier this year--with some arcane number.  Mine is still going strong, but I'm not sure when it goes if I will replace with 4000 or the 2200 replacement.

Diane

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: scott_now_coming 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 9:16 AM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 2200 discontinued?




  Hi Paul,


  The source of my info thought the printers were already released when 
  he told me about the "replacements". That was about 10 days ago.

  Someone else emailed me and said new printers will be announced at 
  the end of April.

  I think we should hear something by June, fwiw.


  Scott



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> 
> 
> I'm hearing there's a replacement for the 76-9600 printers that use the
> same print engine as the 4000. The new printers will be called 7800 and
> 9800.
> 
> Time frame? By June 01, is my guess, fwiw.

It sounds like there will be some bargains for those who want a large format
printer for dedicated B&W.  The UT7 doesn't need the dual blacks to print on
both matte and glossy paper, which is why I opted for the 7600 instead of
the 4000.  

Those who do want the new one ought to find out what its matte dmax is also.
The 4000 is weak.  On the 7600, I'm finding a paper type other than matte
gives the best dmax on matte paper.  The 4000 does not allow this paper
choice.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Interesting.

I thought the R1800 was going to be the replacement for the 2200.

Incidently, a week ago I viewed some 11x14" color prints mounted 
behind glass tat were made on an Epson 2000. Iwas really impressed.

The files were from a Kodak 14n. Now I was floored! I never heard 
anything but negative comments on both pieces of equipment.

Just goes to show ya'.... lol!

Scott


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Diane Fields" 
<picnic@c...> wrote:
> I vaguely remember reading on a printing forum (think on dpreview)
several times that the 2200 replacement had been released in Japan 
earlier this year--with some arcane number.  Mine is still going 
strong, but I'm not sure when it goes if I will replace with 4000 or 
the 2200 replacement.
> 
> Diane
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: scott_now_coming 
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 9:16 AM
>   Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 2200 discontinued?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   Hi Paul,
> 
> 
>   The source of my info thought the printers were already released 
when 
>   he told me about the "replacements". That was about 10 days ago.
> 
>   Someone else emailed me and said new printers will be announced 
at 

>   the end of April.
> 
>   I think we should hear something by June, fwiw.
> 
> 
>   Scott
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Scott, I think the 2000 was good with color generally (particularly with matte) as I understood it, but much worse with b/w with much more metamerism than the 2100/2200.  I will also say that a UK photographer friend who I think knows what he's talking about had a 14n for primarily landscape work.  He said it took working with and learning its foibles (he's primarily a Nikon shooter, but wanted full frame/resolution)--but he's recently sold it and bought the new Nikon and is accepting the compromise.  His online shots with the Kodak were lovely.

Diane

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: scott_now_coming 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 12:01 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 2200 discontinued?



  Interesting.

  I thought the R1800 was going to be the replacement for the 2200.

  Incidently, a week ago I viewed some 11x14" color prints mounted 
  behind glass tat were made on an Epson 2000. Iwas really impressed.

  The files were from a Kodak 14n. Now I was floored! I never heard 
  anything but negative comments on both pieces of equipment.

  Just goes to show ya'.... lol!

  Scott


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul A.
> Yesnosky
> Sent: 23 April 2005 05:59
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 2200 discontinued?
> 
> 
> > I'm hearing there's a replacement for the 76-9600 printers
> > that use the same print engine as the 4000. The new printers
> > will be called 7800 and 9800.
> >
> > Time frame? By June 01, is my guess,fwiw.
> 
> More grist for the rumor mill.
> 
> I was at K&S in Palo Alto the other day looking to demo and possibly buy a
> 7600.
> 
> The salesman dissuaded me from even looking because he said "pretty soon"
> Epson will be coming out with a replacement for the 7600 and I should wait
> for the new printer.
> 
> I don't think a sales guy would turn down a several thousand dollar sale
> unless there really was a new printer coming out...
> 
> He wouldn't give me any details (or didn't know), he just told me to keep
> checking the Epson Web site for new printer announcements. :-)
> 
> Paul

His employer should fire him because presumably the employer needs cash flow
on a continuous daily basis and it's the salesman's job to generate income
and not to act as some kind of independent consultant.

Fire the idiot, that's what I say.

Richard 


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Diane
> Fields
> Sent: 23 April 2005 15:08
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 2200 discontinued?
> 
> 
> I vaguely remember reading on a printing forum (think on dpreview)several
> times that the 2200 replacement had been released in Japan earlier this
> year--with some arcane number.  Mine is still going strong, but I'm not
> sure when it goes if I will replace with 4000 or the 2200 replacement.

I'll put money on the nose that you do

Richard


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