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Lou, you imply that there is a refillable cart for the 4000? How do one obtain such a thing?

Ian







Message: 9         
   Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:39:40 -0000

   From: "Louis Dina" <lbdina@...>
Subject: Re: DMax Epson 4000 vs Epson 7600 (9600)


Shilesh....

What's Up?  IMO, Epson has their head planted firmly up their kazoo.  I 
have tried to get help, but they are worse than useless.  Epson builds 
their ink limits into the driver's paper settings, and for whatever 
reason, they set the ink limits too low on the matte paper settings in 
their driver.  From what I can tell, all the matte choices are all on 
the low side.  The glossy settings work fine and give great Dmax on my 
printer.

The printer can spit out enough ink, as proven when printing an ink 
limit chart from QTR, but the settings Epson programmed into driver are 
the limitation.  So, if I want better Dmax and gamut on matte papers 
using color inks, that means I have to spend more money for a RIP that 
can control ink limits (ie, NOT ImagePrint, since it hard codes ink 
limits into the inkset.  Perhaps the full verson of ColorBurst - not 
the Epson version, or StudioPrint).  

Paul Roark suggested another possible workaround, but I haven't tried 
it.  Put Eboni black ink into a refilliable PK cartridge and put it 
into the PK slot of the printer.  Then, tell the printer you are 
printing on glossy stock and use a glossy paper setting.  Not sure if 
this will work or not.  The 4000 has more sensors than Carter has 
pills, and it may be able to sense the paper type.  Not sure about that 
either.  

My 2200 gets better Dmax on matte paper with the Epson driver than my 
4000 does.  But, the 4000 does better on glossy papers than the 2200.

How about sending an email to Epson asking for an update to the driver 
that allows more ink to the matte papers?  I'll do the same.

Ian,

The 4000 uses the same cart as the 7600.  I have never used a 
refillable for my 4000, but MIS offers them.  Here's a link.

http://www.inksupply.com/epsoncarts_xx.cfm

Lou

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wrote:
> Lou, you imply that there is a refillable cart for the 4000? How do 
one obtain such a thing?
> 
> Ian
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> Message: 9         
>    Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 20:39:40 -0000
>    From: "Louis Dina" <lbdina@c...>
> Subject: Re: DMax Epson 4000 vs Epson 7600 (9600)
> 
> 
> Shilesh....
> 
> What's Up?  IMO, Epson has their head planted firmly up their 
kazoo.  I 
> have tried to get help, but they are worse than useless.  Epson 
builds 
> their ink limits into the driver's paper settings, and for whatever 
> reason, they set the ink limits too low on the matte paper settings 
in 
> their driver.  From what I can tell, all the matte choices are all 
on 
> the low side.  The glossy settings work fine and give great Dmax on 
my 
> printer.
> 
> The printer can spit out enough ink, as proven when printing an ink 
> limit chart from QTR, but the settings Epson programmed into driver 
are 
> the limitation.  So, if I want better Dmax and gamut on matte 
papers 
> using color inks, that means I have to spend more money for a RIP 
that 
> can control ink limits (ie, NOT ImagePrint, since it hard codes ink 
> limits into the inkset.  Perhaps the full verson of ColorBurst - 
not 
> the Epson version, or StudioPrint).  
> 
> Paul Roark suggested another possible workaround, but I haven't 
tried 
> it.  Put Eboni black ink into a refilliable PK cartridge and put it 
> into the PK slot of the printer.  Then, tell the printer you are 
> printing on glossy stock and use a glossy paper setting.  Not sure 
if 
> this will work or not.  The 4000 has more sensors than Carter has 
> pills, and it may be able to sense the paper type.  Not sure about 
that 
> either.  
> 
> My 2200 gets better Dmax on matte paper with the Epson driver than 
my 
> 4000 does.  But, the 4000 does better on glossy papers than the 
2200.
> 
> How about sending an email to Epson asking for an update to the 
driver 
> that allows more ink to the matte papers?  I'll do the same.