Digital BW, The Print

Been wanting to experiment with wax, on my Photo Rag prints, and I 
just went through all the previous posts I saw. My objective is 
primarily visual.  I want a deeper Dmax, and overal Deeper "look".  
The added protection is welcome as well.

1. Renaissance Wax:  Never used it on prints, but I have used other 
waxes that are similar for woodworking, and I DO suspect that it 
would be a "pain in the butt" to use on prints.
2. Liquid Acrylic Wax:  this actually sounds quite plausible to me, 
and sprayed, should be easy enough.  Problem, water soluble
3.  I have tried Clear Shield (Semi-Gloss),,, not bad, easy enough, 
but it does little if anything to increase the D-Max,,,and, again, 
it's water soluble

So, I am looking to experiment.  Now, one wax I am very familiar 
with, it's tough as nails, seemingly doesn't yellow or anything 
along that line, is car wax.  The typical creme wax that comes in a 
short can (Turtle wax for example) that you apply, let dry 
(thoroughly) and then buff off the dried remains. Naturally, this 
wax, as with any wax or varnish, I would try on top of an isolation 
coat, such as Lascaux Fixative.
So, any opinions/experience using car wax? Curious to hear. 
Archivability issues????
All the best,
Kevin Logan

klog52756 wrote:

>
>1. Renaissance Wax:  Never used it on prints, but I have used other 
>waxes that are similar for woodworking, and I DO suspect that it 
>would be a "pain in the butt" to use on prints.
>  
>
I've tried Renaissance Wax on a print made with MIS EZ inks on EEM.  If 
anything, it leads to less d-max.

-Peter

Hmmm, I would have assumed that it would have increased the Dmax.
Any opinion(s) RE "car" wax?

Kevin

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Peter De Smidt 
<pdesmidt@T...> wrote:
> klog52756 wrote:
> 
> >
> >1. Renaissance Wax:  Never used it on prints, but I have used other 
> >waxes that are similar for woodworking, and I DO suspect that it 
> >would be a "pain in the butt" to use on prints.
> >  
> >
> I've tried Renaissance Wax on a print made with MIS EZ inks on EEM.  
If 

> anything, it leads to less d-max.
> 
> -Peter

I would not wax matte paper.  I think you need to explore the water-based
"coatings" that are rolled on for matte paper.

> From: klog52756 <klog52756@...>
> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 20:28:37 -0000
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Wax
> 
> Hmmm, I would have assumed that it would have increased the Dmax.
> Any opinion(s) RE "car" wax?
> 
> Kevin
>

Don't know what the original questions was, but I have used artist's 
wax (low temp wax for encaustic painting) on canvas pieces. The net 
effect is a "film" appearance over the image leading to a lowered 
D-Max. The use of wax on a print would most certainly be for surface 
effect only (with the advantage of pigment protection as a secondary 
consideration).

Hal Gage

Normally I don't bother folk "asking" a question, without at least 
trying it first.  I was just impatient last night!!!.
BUT, my conlusion is, that CAR WAX, does NOT work well.  It just 
yielded a hazy look, that is totally unacceptable.
But I did think it was worth a try.
Thanks to everyone for responding to my rather "imaptient" question.
All the best,
Kevin Logan

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "klog52756" 
<klog52756@y...> wrote:
> Been wanting to experiment with wax, on my Photo Rag prints, and I 
> just went through all the previous posts I saw. My objective is 
> primarily visual.  I want a deeper Dmax, and overal 
Deeper "look".  
> The added protection is welcome as well.
> 
> 1. Renaissance Wax:  Never used it on prints, but I have used 
other 
> waxes that are similar for woodworking, and I DO suspect that it 
> would be a "pain in the butt" to use on prints.
> 2. Liquid Acrylic Wax:  this actually sounds quite plausible to 
me, 
> and sprayed, should be easy enough.  Problem, water soluble
> 3.  I have tried Clear Shield (Semi-Gloss),,, not bad, easy 
enough, 
> but it does little if anything to increase the D-Max,,,and, again, 
> it's water soluble
> 
> So, I am looking to experiment.  Now, one wax I am very familiar 
> with, it's tough as nails, seemingly doesn't yellow or anything 
> along that line, is car wax.  The typical creme wax that comes in 
a 
> short can (Turtle wax for example) that you apply, let dry 
> (thoroughly) and then buff off the dried remains. Naturally, this 
> wax, as with any wax or varnish, I would try on top of an 
isolation 

> coat, such as Lascaux Fixative.
> So, any opinions/experience using car wax? Curious to hear. 
> Archivability issues????
> All the best,
> Kevin Logan

I think Johnson's paste wax (floor wax), applied thinly and rubbed
gently with a rag, would not lower Dmax. I've not tried on inkjet
paper but it certainly didn't reduce Dmax of silver paper, a thousand
years ago when I last did it.

Wax in general is shiny (perhaps adding Dmax?) when polished (applied
with a gentle rub), but not shiny when applied without polishing.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Hal Gage
<halgage@a...> wrote:

> Don't know what the original questions was, but I have used artist's 
> wax (low temp wax for encaustic painting) on canvas pieces. The net 
> effect is a "film" appearance over the image leading to a lowered 
> D-Max. The use of wax on a print would most certainly be for surface 
> effect only (with the advantage of pigment protection as a secondary 
> consideration).
> 
> Hal Gage