Digital BW, The Print

>     I have not done any test strips but the correct setting is no colour
>  management in PS CS2 or Same as Source in PS CS. In other words you just
>  send the file numbers only.
>
>
>  > From: Sonny Taylor
>  > Reply-To:
>  > Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 11:35:42 -0500 (CDT)
>  > To:
>  > Cc: , ,
>  >
>  > Subject: [Digital BW] "Color management" in PS or Advanced B/W
> driver [Mac,
>  > R2400]
>  >
>  > I wonder if anyone has any experience with the Advanced B/W driver, with
>  > respect to color management in PS? I am testing my R2400 and am trying to
>  > resolve a statement by Jeff Schewe in his excellent article in
> PhotoshopNews:
>  >
>  > http://photoshopnews.com/2005/05/16/epson-r2400-and-ultrachrome-k3-ink-report/
>  >
>  > where he states:
>  >
>  > "Printing out of Photoshop CS2, I used the Print with Preview dialog
> to set up
>  > the Photoshop to Epson driver hand off. Since the Advanced B&W Mode
> operates
>  > completely outside of normal color management parameters, in Photoshop you
>  > must turn off any color management".
>  >
>  > I wonder if I am doing something wrong. I am printing a B/W strip
> posterized
>  > to 31 segments. The first segment is 100% black, the second 97% black, and
> so
>  > on.
>  >
>  > Prior to reading Jeff's article, I did my tests with Color Management ON in
> PS
>  > and as I have always done with color; and the results with the Advanced B/W
>  > driver are excellent, except for some difficulty in differentiating the 100
>  > and 97% (they are both black, even though I can see a difference on my
>  > monitor; with a curve in PS, I can slightly open up the 100-97%).
>  >
>  > There is very little change in the shadows using Shadow Tonality in the
>  > Advanced B/W driver, from -25 to +25.
>  >
>  > After reading Jeff's article, I turned off CM, passing control to the
> Advanced
>  > B/W driver. The strips became all black for many more segments. I could not
>  > open them up using the driver.
>  >
>  > Am I missing something from Jeff's article? It seems that CM ON in PS still
>  > gives much better results  than I can achieve by the driver alone.
>  >
>  > Is there a better way to open up the deep blacks?
>  >
>  > Any comments will be greatly appreciated.
>  >
>  > Thanks,
>  >
>  > Sonny

> From: Sonny Taylor <st@...>
> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:02:47 -0500 (CDT)
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] 'Color management' in PS or Advanced B/W
> driver[Mac, R2400]
> 
> Yep, just repeated it again with "No Color Management" and the dark 1/4 of the
> strip is total black!
> 
> Turn CM on, and the scale is great. Something's wrong????
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Sonny
>

> What paper and ink?  Can you measure the results? (My guess is matte paper
> and matte ink.  I only have PK in my 4800 at the moment but if you follow
> the Holy Moly 4800 thread you will see I have posted test strip results for
> ISP paper and PK ink.)
> 
> Steve

> > 
> > Yep, just repeated it again with "No Color Management" and the dark 1/4 of the
> > strip is total black!
> > 
> > Turn CM on, and the scale is great. Something's wrong????

> From: Sonny Taylor <st@...>
> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 20:16:29 -0000
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] 'Color management' in PS or Advanced B/W driver[Mac,
> R2400]
> 
> Steve,
> 
> Heavyweight matte paper, Matte Black ink on a 2400. I cannot quantitatively
> measure the 
> results, but I am comparing the density on my monitor with the print just
> using my eyes. 
> With CM on with Advanced B/W driver, the print corresponds to my monitor. When
> I turn 
> CM off in PS, I loose 1/4 of the strips which all become dense back.
> 
> And, the Shadow Tonality control in the Advanced B/W driver makes very little
> change 
> from -25 to +25 (with or without CM in PS)
> 
> Strange, but the results using the wrong way (CM ON in PS) correspond great
> with my 
> monitor.
> 
> Sonny
>  
>