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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Varnishes, was Beyond the name

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Varnishes, was Beyond the name

2001-12-06 by shashinka@aol.com

Great info Mark:

I smell a canvas print exchange somewhere in the future.  I mean that 
literally, with all the crazy coatings!

-Andy Darlow

<< I'm loving playing around with these sprays on this MediaStreet 
canvas. Here's the status report:

When the liquid varnish hits the canvas, it immediately shifts the 
color pretty greenish. So this last version, I did Levels in the 
green channel, and made the print VERY magenta. When the 
varnish hit it, it pulled it back pretty much where I wanted it 
(neutral). This is using Gen4 inks in a 7000.

I guess if you got into it, you could profile it by printing out the 
black chips, then varnish the canvas, then send it out to be read. 
You couldn't judge the prints til they'd been varnished, but it 
would be pretty darn close.

I got a spray by Blair (gloss), and Grumbacher (gloss), and 
Krylon TripleCoat (gloss); all aerosols. Then this brushon by 
Weber called Synvar (oilbase); that's my favorite; it richens the 
blacks and dries matte, after a coat or even two. Another good 
one for effect was Ageing Varnish, but it was VERY yellow/green 
after two coats. But neat for something; just don't know what.

Now what to do with the canvas: stretch it on a frame like a 
painting, or just mat it like a photograph? Or dip it in wax! >>

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Varnishes, was Beyond the name

2001-12-06 by Steadman Uhlich

Canvases are generally stretched for appearance sake...but the changes in humidity can affect canvas dimensions (if loose...not stretched) and consequently over time cause problems for oil paintings (cracking of varnish layers with repeated distensions)....Flat storage and transport are fine...flat display is fine too (like paper) I would think for ink on canvas. If coated with many layers of wax or varnish I think a stretched version would be better. 

Steadman
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  From: shashinka@... 
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  Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 10:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Varnishes, was Beyond the name


  Great info Mark:

  I smell a canvas print exchange somewhere in the future.  I mean that 
  literally, with all the crazy coatings!

  -Andy Darlow

  << I'm loving playing around with these sprays on this MediaStreet 
  canvas. Here's the status report:

  When the liquid varnish hits the canvas, it immediately shifts the 
  color pretty greenish. So this last version, I did Levels in the 
  green channel, and made the print VERY magenta. When the 
  varnish hit it, it pulled it back pretty much where I wanted it 
  (neutral). This is using Gen4 inks in a 7000.

  I guess if you got into it, you could profile it by printing out the 
  black chips, then varnish the canvas, then send it out to be read. 
  You couldn't judge the prints til they'd been varnished, but it 
  would be pretty darn close.

  I got a spray by Blair (gloss), and Grumbacher (gloss), and 
  Krylon TripleCoat (gloss); all aerosols. Then this brushon by 
  Weber called Synvar (oilbase); that's my favorite; it richens the 
  blacks and dries matte, after a coat or even two. Another good 
  one for effect was Ageing Varnish, but it was VERY yellow/green 
  after two coats. But neat for something; just don't know what.

  Now what to do with the canvas: stretch it on a frame like a 
  painting, or just mat it like a photograph? Or dip it in wax! >>


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