Digital BW, The Print

Hi All;

Does anybody have exerience with QIMAGE?  

Ed

For those of you using Qimage for Black-and-White...

I am trying the demo and got stuck on 2 points:

1. I am working on 16-bit grayscale files.  Qimage changes them to 8-
bit.  Is there a way to keep them as 16-bit?

2. I would like to keep the Qimage files in grayscale, preferably 
Untagged Gray, but Qimage changes them to RGB files.  I don't know 
how to keep them in grayscale.  Where are the gray profiles on a PC?  
(I can find all my color profiles but do not see any gray settings.)

Helene

Saturday, March 27, 2004, 7:37:42 AM, you wrote:

g> For those of you using Qimage for Black-and-White...

g> I am trying the demo and got stuck on 2 points:

g> 1. I am working on 16-bit grayscale files.\ufffd Qimage changes them to 8-
g> bit.\ufffd Is there a way to keep them as 16-bit?

Your print driver turns the file to 8-bit before it prints anyway.
Are you using Qimage to tweak the image file in some way or just to
print?  If the latter it should be of no concern.

-- 
Best regards,
 Richard                            mailto:richard@...

I am using Qimage only for its upsizing routine.  I "print to file"  
and then print via ImagePrint.  I do all edits in Photoshop.

I find when Qimage prints to file, and I open the image for printing, 
it has been changed to 8-bit RGB mode, and it is darker.  The file I 
get after Qimage is not the same file I sent to Qimage.

I am more concerned about keeping the file in a gray space than the 
bit change.

Helene



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Richard Sintchak 
<richcontaxg@s...> wrote:
> 
> Saturday, March 27, 2004, 7:37:42 AM, you wrote:
> 
> g> For those of you using Qimage for Black-and-White...
> 
> g> I am trying the demo and got stuck on 2 points:
> 
> g> 1. I am working on 16-bit grayscale files.  Qimage changes them 
to 8-

> g> bit.  Is there a way to keep them as 16-bit?
> 
> Your print driver turns the file to 8-bit before it prints anyway.
> Are you using Qimage to tweak the image file in some way or just to
> print?  If the latter it should be of no concern.
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
>  Richard                            mailto:richard@c...

I asked Mike Chaney about that and 16 bit support is planned only for 
later updates. Interpolation by Qimage will convert image to 8 bit, 
but since that is done after all other correctiond, it may not be a 
huge concern.

Alfred


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "grdglass" 
<grdglass@a...> wrote:
> For those of you using Qimage for Black-and-White...
> 
> I am trying the demo and got stuck on 2 points:
> 
> 1. I am working on 16-bit grayscale files.  Qimage changes them to 
8-
> bit.  Is there a way to keep them as 16-bit?
> 
> 2. I would like to keep the Qimage files in grayscale, preferably 
> Untagged Gray, but Qimage changes them to RGB files.  I don't know 
> how to keep them in grayscale.  Where are the gray profiles on a 
PC?  

> (I can find all my color profiles but do not see any gray settings.)
> 
> Helene

I read with interest , the recent posts on Qimage.  and I too, echo their excellent results .I am not a " volume user" but after trying a number of sharpening plug-ins as well as the imbedded PS " sharpening" menu, have concluded that Qimage offers superior results w/o looking over sharpened. My prints just simply are more pleasing to my eye  and the workflow is intuitive and ideal for my fine art and architectural work.
Alan Zimmerman
   
   

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i totally agree!  great sharpening & interpolation algorithms.  but i
do wish they would leave it as a 16-bit TIFF so i can print it with
all 16-bits through a RIP.  qimage is not my last step.  i do some
other steps involving "add canvas" for customized borders and then
adding text to the borders.  yes, i know qimage can do borders but i
have different requirements for my borders.

i do hope future editions give me the option to NOT convert to 8-bits
because i would prefer to print through a RIP rather than through qimage.

mike, are you listening?



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Zimmerman"
<azimmerman1@...> wrote:
>
> I read with interest , the recent posts on Qimage.  and I too, echo
their excellent results .I am not a " volume user" but after trying a
number of sharpening plug-ins as well as the imbedded PS " sharpening"
menu, have concluded that Qimage offers superior results w/o looking
over sharpened. My prints just simply are more pleasing to my eye  and
the workflow is intuitive and ideal for my fine art and architectural
work.

> Alan Zimmerman
>    
>    
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

if you want Mike to listen then post your queries here.
http://www.stevesforums.com/forums/view_forum.php?id=33
Jules



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "c1asia" <c1asia@...> wrote:

> 
> i do hope future editions give me the option to NOT convert to 8-bits
> because i would prefer to print through a RIP rather than through qimage.
> 
> mike, are you listening?
> 
> 
>

This thread is really old (started in 2001), but the idea that QImage
might be modifying the "original" image files concerned me. That would
be a huge no-no in my books. I had a few monchrome images I needed to
proof, so I ran a test, using QImage v2009.107. I normally just leave
my momochrome images as 16 bit RGB, but for my test, I changed the
mode on a couple to 16 bit grayscale.

The 16 bit grayscale images wouldn't disply at all in QImage. I had to
change them to 8 bit grayscale to be able to preview them. This isn't
a problem for me at all in practice, but its interesting and would
obviously be a problem for the original poster.

More importantly (to me), after making my prints, I checked, and noted
that QImage had not modified my "original" files in any way.