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Is Ilford Smooth Gloss the same as Kirkland Glossy?

Is Ilford Smooth Gloss the same as Kirkland Glossy?

2005-06-30 by Daniel Staver

A while back I ordered a package of Kirkland Glossy from MIS just to see
what all the fuss was about. It's a nice paper, with little gloss
differential but quite bad bronzing (color shifts to bronze-like color when
held at an angle). With UT7, PKN and 60% GLOP the bronzing is totally gone
and I can only see a little reduction in gloss in totally black areas.

Today I got a package of Ilford Smooth gloss at the local photo store and by
all appearances it's the exact same paper. I made two prints with the same
image printed twice on each, one with GLOP and one without, and they look
identical. 

Are the two papers the same? I see Ilford is only rating the paper at 30
years for pigment inks, not what I would consider archival.

--
Daniel Staver
http://daniel.staver.no

Re: [Digital BW] Is Ilford Smooth Gloss the same as Kirkland Glossy?

2005-06-30 by Douglas meeuwsen

Paul R has tested the paper somehow and determined that the kirkland is 
buffered, Like the epson premium line. The ilford is NOT buffered, that 
is why it is not archival. The kirlkalnd should be much more archival. 
I like the fact that it works just like Ilford, because we can use 
Ilford profiles! Everyone has known for a long time that the ilfors 
smooth line had the best image quality. I do think that the ilford has 
much more bronzing however, at least with ut2 inks. DM
On Jun 30, 2005, at 7:11 AM, Daniel Staver wrote:

> A while back I ordered a package of Kirkland Glossy from MIS just to 
> see
>  what all the fuss was about. It's a nice paper, with little gloss
>  differential but quite bad bronzing (color shifts to bronze-like 
> color when
>  held at an angle). With UT7, PKN and 60% GLOP the bronzing is totally 
> gone
>  and I can only see a little reduction in gloss in totally black areas.
>
>  Today I got a package of Ilford Smooth gloss at the local photo store 
> and by
>  all appearances it's the exact same paper. I made two prints with the 
> same
>  image printed twice on each, one with GLOP and one without, and they 
> look
>  identical.
>
>  Are the two papers the same? I see Ilford is only rating the paper at 
> 30
>  years for pigment inks, not what I would consider archival.
>
>  --
>  Daniel Staver
> http://daniel.staver.no
>
>
>
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