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2005-07-25 by lovelipp
For years I've been using 13x19,17x22, and rolls of HPR and HGerman etching for my 7600(MIS UT7 ink) and 3000 (MIS) quad, after trying a zillion other papers. Today, out of desperation I went to Staples for a pack of 8.5x11 for my C86 (MIS EZ warm)- and bought EEM. I've never gotten better prints.I'm stunned!
2005-07-25 by Paul Roark
Such a shame that EEM is acidic, but then that is probably one reason it performs so well. But for non-archival display, it's the standard. Paul www.PaulRoark.com
> -----Original Message----- > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > lovelipp > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 10:04 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] I've been a paper snob > > For years I've been using 13x19,17x22, and rolls of HPR and HGerman > etching for my 7600(MIS UT7 ink) and 3000 (MIS) quad, after trying a > zillion other papers. Today, out of desperation I went to Staples for a > pack of 8.5x11 for my C86 (MIS EZ warm)- and bought EEM. I've never > gotten better prints.I'm stunned! > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner > and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files > section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO > YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR > EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE > "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN > ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE > OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) > UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) > STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
2005-07-25 by dfaprinting
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "lovelipp" <arlenelove3@a...> wrote: > For years I've been using 13x19,17x22, and rolls of HPR and HGerman > etching for my 7600(MIS UT7 ink) and 3000 (MIS) quad, after trying a > zillion other papers. Today, out of desperation I went to Staples for a > pack of 8.5x11 for my C86 (MIS EZ warm)- and bought EEM. I've never > gotten better prints.I'm stunned! I guess I'm still a paper snob, I dislike EEM, it never really looks good to me no matter what type of lighting or what type of print. For "cheap" work prints I'm now using Hahnemuhle Artproof.
2005-07-25 by DaleH
EEM? What is EEM? DaleH
>Such a shame that EEM is acidic, but then that is probably one reason it >performs so well. But for non-archival display, it's the standard. > >Paul >www.PaulRoark.com > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com >> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of >> lovelipp >> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 10:04 AM >> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com >> Subject: [Digital BW] I've been a paper snob >> >> For years I've been using 13x19,17x22, and rolls of HPR and HGerman >> etching for my 7600(MIS UT7 ink) and 3000 (MIS) quad, after trying a >> zillion other papers. Today, out of desperation I went to Staples for a >> pack of 8.5x11 for my C86 (MIS EZ warm)- and bought EEM. I've never > > gotten better prints.I'm stunned!
2005-07-25 by john dean
If you want an excellent substitue for EEMatte I would suggest you try Innova Fiba Print. I'm glad I found out about it . It is similar but better and thicker and more substantial. John -- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "dfaprinting" < dfaprinting@y...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "lovelipp" > <arlenelove3@a...> wrote: > > For years I've been using 13x19,17x22, and rolls of HPR and HGerman > > etching for my 7600(MIS UT7 ink) and 3000 (MIS) quad, after trying a > > zillion other papers. Today, out of desperation I went to Staples for > a > > pack of 8.5x11 for my C86 (MIS EZ warm)- and bought EEM. I've never > > gotten better prints.I'm stunned! > > I guess I'm still a paper snob, I dislike EEM, it never really looks > good to me no matter what type of lighting or what type of print. > For "cheap" work prints I'm now using Hahnemuhle Artproof.
2005-07-25 by Stephen M Martin
How does the Innova Fiba Print compare to the Soft Texture Art? I tried the STA and wound up throwing most of the package in the garbage. I am selling prints to a local dealer and did one on EEM because, frankly, it looked better than half a dozen other papers. However, now I see that it's acidic which means, I suppose, that prints I represent as having a long life may not have not. If the Fiba Print is a good substitute, I would be very happy to use it. Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: john dean
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:45 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: I've been a paper snob
If you want an excellent substitue for EEMatte I would suggest you try Innova
Fiba Print. I'm glad I found out about it . It is similar but better and thicker and
more substantial.
John
-- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "dfaprinting" <
dfaprinting@y...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "lovelipp"
> <arlenelove3@a...> wrote:
> > For years I've been using 13x19,17x22, and rolls of HPR and HGerman
> > etching for my 7600(MIS UT7 ink) and 3000 (MIS) quad, after trying a
> > zillion other papers. Today, out of desperation I went to Staples for
> a
> > pack of 8.5x11 for my C86 (MIS EZ warm)- and bought EEM. I've never
> > gotten better prints.I'm stunned!
>
> I guess I'm still a paper snob, I dislike EEM, it never really looks
> good to me no matter what type of lighting or what type of print.
> For "cheap" work prints I'm now using Hahnemuhle Artproof.
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2005-07-25 by alankushnir
How do you get profiles for these papers like Hanemuhle ? I use EEM on my 2200 and would like to try these other papers. But I don't know where you obtain the printing profiles. I'm not interested in creating my own profiles at this time. Thanks. Alan --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "dfaprinting" <dfaprinting@y...> wrote: > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "lovelipp" > <arlenelove3@a...> wrote: > > For years I've been using 13x19,17x22, and rolls of HPR and HGerman > > etching for my 7600(MIS UT7 ink) and 3000 (MIS) quad, after trying a > > zillion other papers. Today, out of desperation I went to Staples for > a > > pack of 8.5x11 for my C86 (MIS EZ warm)- and bought EEM. I've never > > gotten better prints.I'm stunned! > > I guess I'm still a paper snob, I dislike EEM, it never really looks > good to me no matter what type of lighting or what type of print. > For "cheap" work prints I'm now using Hahnemuhle Artproof.
2005-07-25 by Stephen M Martin
Buying Image Print is a step in that direction.
----- Original Message -----
From: alankushnir
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 3:04 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: I've been a paper snob
How do you get profiles for these papers like Hanemuhle ? I use EEM on
my 2200 and
would like to try these other papers. But I don't know where you
obtain the printing profiles. I'm not interested in creating my own
profiles at this time.
Thanks.
Alan
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "dfaprinting"
<dfaprinting@y...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "lovelipp"
> <arlenelove3@a...> wrote:
> > For years I've been using 13x19,17x22, and rolls of HPR and
HGerman
> > etching for my 7600(MIS UT7 ink) and 3000 (MIS) quad, after
trying a
> > zillion other papers. Today, out of desperation I went to Staples
for
> a
> > pack of 8.5x11 for my C86 (MIS EZ warm)- and bought EEM. I've
never
> > gotten better prints.I'm stunned!
>
> I guess I'm still a paper snob, I dislike EEM, it never really
looks
> good to me no matter what type of lighting or what type of print.
> For "cheap" work prints I'm now using Hahnemuhle Artproof.
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2005-07-25 by Douglas meeuwsen
Hello.....The calumet store is pushing this paper, and it does look pretty good. The matte feels nice, and the others are about like epson papers....but I cant find any claim on their website about if it's archival. The "Sales" guy says that it is archival, but the website does not mention it.......nor could i find out who makes it.....any body know what it is? thanks, DM
2005-07-25 by Mark Savoia
Tell him you want proof. If they are going to sell papers they should be able to back it up with tech info. If they cannot supply that info, I would think twice about taking the chance. If it goes weird in 5 years for example, will they replace it? Mark On Jul 25, 2005, at 4:18 PM, Douglas meeuwsen wrote: > The "Sales" guy says that it is archival
2005-07-25 by Eric T. Kunsman
I have profiles for most Hahnemuhle and Innova paper I would be willing to give you for free. Just tell me what papers you need them for. Eric T. Kunsman
From: alankushnir <akushnir@...> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:04:46 -0000 To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: I've been a paper snob How do you get profiles for these papers like Hanemuhle ? I use EEM on my 2200 and would like to try these other papers. But I don't know where you obtain the printing profiles. I'm not interested in creating my own profiles at this time. Thanks. Alan --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "dfaprinting" <dfaprinting@y...> wrote: > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "lovelipp" > <arlenelove3@a...> wrote: > > For years I've been using 13x19,17x22, and rolls of HPR and HGerman > > etching for my 7600(MIS UT7 ink) and 3000 (MIS) quad, after trying a > > zillion other papers. Today, out of desperation I went to Staples for > a > > pack of 8.5x11 for my C86 (MIS EZ warm)- and bought EEM. I've never > > gotten better prints.I'm stunned! > > I guess I'm still a paper snob, I dislike EEM, it never really looks > good to me no matter what type of lighting or what type of print. > For "cheap" work prints I'm now using Hahnemuhle Artproof. Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See ³Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines² in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE ³OWNER² AND ³MODERATORS² OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE ³OWNER² AND ³MODERATORS² OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint> " on the web. * * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: * DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Uns ubscribe> * * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005-07-25 by Paul Roark
I have curves for the Innova paper (and others) for both the 2200 with UT7 and C86 with EZ inks. With the C86, driver Color Control settings are close, but I've been using an additional grayscale curve to make prints that more closely match those made on my 7600 and other printers that use curves. All the curves are posted and can be reached from my index at http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/index.htm . Paul www.PaulRoark.com
> -----Original Message----- > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > alankushnir > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 11:05 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: I've been a paper snob > > How do you get profiles for these papers like Hanemuhle ? I use EEM on > my 2200 and > would like to try these other papers. But I don't know where you > obtain the printing profiles. I'm not interested in creating my own > profiles at this time. > Thanks. > Alan > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "dfaprinting" > <dfaprinting@y...> wrote: > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "lovelipp" > > <arlenelove3@a...> wrote: > > > For years I've been using 13x19,17x22, and rolls of HPR and > HGerman > > > etching for my 7600(MIS UT7 ink) and 3000 (MIS) quad, after > trying a > > > zillion other papers. Today, out of desperation I went to Staples > for > > a > > > pack of 8.5x11 for my C86 (MIS EZ warm)- and bought EEM. I've > never > > > gotten better prints.I'm stunned! > > > > I guess I'm still a paper snob, I dislike EEM, it never really > looks > > good to me no matter what type of lighting or what type of print. > > For "cheap" work prints I'm now using Hahnemuhle Artproof. > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner > and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files > section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO > YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR > EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE > "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN > ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE > OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) > UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) > STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
2005-07-25 by dfaprinting
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" <deanwork2003@y...> wrote: > If you want an excellent substitue for EEMatte I would suggest you try Innova > Fiba Print. I'm glad I found out about it . It is similar but better and thicker and > more substantial. > > John > > Fiba seems to have a lot less OBA on it, which makes it much more pleasant to look at (at least to me). Somewhere I have spectral graphs of the paper white of a rather large selection of papers, that's one of the first things I do when I try a new paper. That also means I have a pretty fat swatch book of papers that I've tried, most with a profile target printed on it. The unfortunate part is that I changed inks part way through, and changed spectro's too, so it's a little bit oranges to grapefruits I still need to retest a few papers (canvas) to make sure I gave them a fair chance, the Innova papers is one group, and several of the Hawk Mountain are the other (of the ones that I'll mention at this time).
2005-07-25 by Peter De Smidt
john dean wrote: >If you want an excellent substitue for EEMatte I would suggest you try Innova >Fiba Print. I'm glad I found out about it . It is similar but better and thicker and >more substantial. > >John > > > How does Innova Fiba Print paper differ from Innova Smooth Cotton? -Peter
2005-07-25 by dfaprinting
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Peter De Smidt <pdesmidt@T...> wrote: > john dean wrote: > > >If you want an excellent substitue for EEMatte I would suggest you try Innova > >Fiba Print. I'm glad I found out about it . It is similar but better and thicker and > >more substantial. > > > >John > > > > > > > How does Innova Fiba Print paper differ from Innova Smooth Cotton? > > -Peter I'm afraid I'll have to print some new tests before I can answer that, so hopefully someone else will respond. All my previous Innova sample prints fell to the water torture test and are no longer suitable for comparison.
2005-07-25 by dfaprinting
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "alankushnir" <akushnir@c...> wrote: > How do you get profiles for these papers like Hanemuhle ? I use EEM on > my 2200 and > would like to try these other papers. But I don't know where you > obtain the printing profiles. I'm not interested in creating my own > profiles at this time. > Thanks. > Alan Hahnemuhle has them on their website... somewhere. I always make my own (for many reasons). Most other manufacturers should have something similar.
2005-07-25 by infraredprof
Peter, Innova Smooth Cotton has more of a cottong feel to it as Fiba print is more of the tradtional fiber base paper we were use to using in the darkroom. The smooth cotton is exactly that, cotton. I have been able to get a higher DMax on the Smooth Cotton than the Fiba print. Moisture alos effects the Fiba print more than Smooth Cotton as the cotton absorbs more of the ink. So if you choose to use the Fiba watch your print settings. Eric
2005-07-25 by Brian Ellis
Can the QTR curve for EEM be used for Innova Fiba Print?
----- Original Message ----- From: "john dean" <deanwork2003@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:45 PM Subject: [Digital BW] Re: I've been a paper snob If you want an excellent substitue for EEMatte I would suggest you try Innova Fiba Print. I'm glad I found out about it . It is similar but better and thicker and more substantial. John
2005-07-25 by Jeff Medkeff
DaleH wrote: > EEM? What is EEM? Epson Enhanced Matte. Don't worry, its not just you; there's a lingo used around here that takes a little getting used to. -- Jeff Medkeff Eagle River, Alaska
2005-07-26 by Eric T. Kunsman
Peter, Smooth Cotton has a little more texture, but barely any. If you want texture you may want to try Texture fine art. Eric T. Kunsman
From: Peter De Smidt <pdesmidt@...> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:08:26 -0700 To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: I've been a paper snob infraredprof wrote: >Peter, > >Innova Smooth Cotton has more of a cottong feel to it as Fiba print is more of the tradtional >fiber base paper we were use to using in the darkroom. The smooth cotton is exactly that, >cotton. I have been able to get a higher DMax on the Smooth Cotton than the Fiba print. >Moisture alos effects the Fiba print more than Smooth Cotton as the cotton absorbs more of >the ink. So if you choose to use the Fiba watch your print settings. > >Eric > > > Thanks for the info, Eric. Is one more textured than the other? I've ordered a sample pack of the Innova papers, but it won't be here for a few days. -Peter Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See ³Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines² in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE ³OWNER² AND ³MODERATORS² OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE ³OWNER² AND ³MODERATORS² OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint> " on the web. * * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: * DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Uns ubscribe> * * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005-07-26 by Peter De Smidt
infraredprof wrote: >Peter, > >Innova Smooth Cotton has more of a cottong feel to it as Fiba print is more of the tradtional >fiber base paper we were use to using in the darkroom. The smooth cotton is exactly that, >cotton. I have been able to get a higher DMax on the Smooth Cotton than the Fiba print. >Moisture alos effects the Fiba print more than Smooth Cotton as the cotton absorbs more of >the ink. So if you choose to use the Fiba watch your print settings. > >Eric > > > Thanks for the info, Eric. Is one more textured than the other? I've ordered a sample pack of the Innova papers, but it won't be here for a few days. -Peter