Digital BW, The Print

I'm using ImagePrint 6.0 for the Mac and an Epson 2200. My Apple Cinema 
Display is calibrated, using the ColorVision Spyder with OptiCAL. The 
image is processed in Photoshop CS2, flattened, saved as a .psd and 
then opened in ImagePrint. The preview is significantly lighter than 
the image in PS and prints that way. I can drop the levels using either 
curves or levels in PS and it will print like I want it, but it's hit 
or miss. Any suggestions? Thanks.
John Lynch

When you save your file in PS is it tagged? Don't assume it is, look
at the options in the dialogue box when saving.
If IP get's an untagged file, will it default to some RGB space you
didn't intend? PS treats all untagged files as existing in the working
space.
Just an idea, no IP experience here. But it's color managed, so could
be relevant.
Tyler

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<john_lynch@m...> wrote:

> I'm using ImagePrint 6.0 for the Mac and an Epson 2200. My Apple Cinema 
> Display is calibrated, using the ColorVision Spyder with OptiCAL. The 
> image is processed in Photoshop CS2, flattened, saved as a .psd and 
> then opened in ImagePrint. The preview is significantly lighter than 
> the image in PS and prints that way. I can drop the levels using either 
> curves or levels in PS and it will print like I want it, but it's hit 
> or miss. Any suggestions? Thanks.
> John Lynch

John:

>The preview is significantly lighter than 
> the image in PS and prints that way. I can drop the levels using either 
> curves or levels in PS and it will print like I want it, but it's hit 
> or miss. Any suggestions? 

Are you referring to B&W or color prints? In grayscale, ImagePrint does not use the Photoshop 
preview facility. For dealing with grayscale print see the note entitled "Notes on ImagePrint 
6_rev1.pdf" in the file section of the ImagePrint yahoo group <http://groups.yahoo.com/
group/ImagePrint/files/>

--Mitch/Bangkok

I think you should be sure to softproof the image in
PS for the paper you use. It often shows a weakening
of the image which needs to be remedied prior to the
print.

good luck
woody spedden

--- alland20854 <mitcha@...> wrote:


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John:

>The preview is significantly lighter than 
> the image in PS and prints that way. I can drop the
levels using either 
> curves or levels in PS and it will print like I want
it, but it's hit 
> or miss. Any suggestions? 

Are you referring to B&W or color prints? In
grayscale, ImagePrint does not use the Photoshop 
preview facility. For dealing with grayscale print see
the note entitled "Notes on ImagePrint 
6_rev1.pdf" in the file section of the ImagePrint
yahoo group <http://groups.yahoo.com/
group/ImagePrint/files/>

--Mitch/Bangkok




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Thanks for the info. I've tested the Relative Colorimetric instead of 
Perceptual in the Rendering Intents for grayscale in IP and it prints 
just as it looks on the screen. I am using the matte black cart with 
Epson Enhanced Matte paper. Hopefully, this simple solution will 
apply to other grayscale images.


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Elwood Spedden 
<elwood@w...> wrote:
> I think you should be sure to softproof the image in
> PS for the paper you use. It often shows a weakening
> of the image which needs to be remedied prior to the
> print.
> 
> good luck
> woody spedden
> 
> --- alland20854 <mitcha@m...> wrote:
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------
> John:
> 
> >The preview is significantly lighter than 
> > the image in PS and prints that way. I can drop the
> levels using either 
> > curves or levels in PS and it will print like I want
> it, but it's hit 
> > or miss. Any suggestions? 
> 
> Are you referring to B&W or color prints? In
> grayscale, ImagePrint does not use the Photoshop 
> preview facility. For dealing with grayscale print see
> the note entitled "Notes on ImagePrint 
> 6_rev1.pdf" in the file section of the ImagePrint
> yahoo group <http://groups.yahoo.com/
> group/ImagePrint/files/>
> 
> --Mitch/Bangkok
> 
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