Digital BW, The Print

check:
http://www.centerforbookarts.org/

I'm considering "self-publishing" a few books of writing and quad ink 
prints - the final piece would be bound, so the paper needs to: 
a.) be thinner than what you'd want for a display print
b.) excellent print quality (it needn't come any larger than 8.5x11)
c.) be able to take the abuse of constant turning pages 

Any recommendations for a paper ?

Anyone made a book & have some experience to share ?
thanks,
Frank

ternahan wrote:

>  check:
> http://www.centerforbookarts.org/
>
>

But be careful that the paper they recommend works with your particular type of inkjet inks...Not all will.

Also, although you might want thin paper, remember, it has to be opaque (thick) enough to not allow 'bleed
through' of the images on the back side of the paper.  Inkjet images put a lot of ink on the substrates they
are printed on.

Harvey Ferdschneider
partner, SKID Photography, NYC





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Yes, the ink bleeding through a paper is a very important point. I 
would be using an MIS Quad inkset.
> 
> >  check:
> > http://www.centerforbookarts.org/
> >
> >
> 
> But be careful that the paper they recommend works with your 
particular type of inkjet inks...Not all will.
> 
> Also, although you might want thin paper, remember, it has to be 
opaque (thick) enough to not allow 'bleed
> through' of the images on the back side of the paper.  Inkjet 
images put a lot of ink on the substrates they

> are printed on.
> 
> Harvey Ferdschneider
> partner, SKID Photography, NYC
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "frankg_photo" 
<frank@f...> wrote:
> I'm considering "self-publishing" a few books of writing and 
quad ink 
> prints - the final piece would be bound, so the paper needs to: 
> a.) be thinner than what you'd want for a display print
> b.) excellent print quality (it needn't come any larger than 
8.5x11)
> c.) be able to take the abuse of constant turning pages 
> 
> Any recommendations for a paper ?
> 
> Anyone made a book & have some experience to share ?
> thanks,
> Frank

Frank,
I would give Hahnemuhle Photo Rag duo (coated on both sides) 
in the thinner version (about 190gsm) a first trial.
Bernd

I would recommend "Digital Book: Design and Publishing" by Douglas Holleley
from Cary Graphic Arts Press. It contains all sorts of info including paper
recommendations.

Wendel

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To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Paper recommendation for a book project


I'm considering "self-publishing" a few books of writing and quad ink
prints - the final piece would be bound, so the paper needs to:
a.) be thinner than what you'd want for a display print
b.) excellent print quality (it needn't come any larger than 8.5x11)
c.) be able to take the abuse of constant turning pages

Any recommendations for a paper ?

Anyone made a book & have some experience to share ?
thanks,
Frank

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "frankg_photo" <frank@f...> 
wrote:
> Yes, the ink bleeding through a paper is a very important point. I 
> would be using an MIS Quad inkset.
> > 
> > >  check:
> > > http://www.centerforbookarts.org/
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > But be careful that the paper they recommend works with your 
> particular type of inkjet inks...Not all will.
> > 
> > Also, although you might want thin paper, remember, it has to be 
> opaque (thick) enough to not allow 'bleed
> > through' of the images on the back side of the paper.  Inkjet 
> images put a lot of ink on the substrates they
> > are printed on.
> > 
> > Harvey Ferdschneider
> > partner, SKID Photography, NYC
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

HI FOLKS,

i have been working on a "book" of my own images. set up like a 
portfolio but not loose in a box. i was wondering if anyone knows 
where i can find materials to bind this together in book form. i am 
going to print on 13x19 paper. where can i find books this large? i 
thought about finding old style ledger binders. any ideas. the prints 
will be printed horizonal. these will be limited to only a few copies.

larry

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "frankg_photo" <frank@f...> 
wrote:
> I'm considering "self-publishing" a few books of writing and quad 
ink 
> prints - the final piece would be bound, so the paper needs to: 
> a.) be thinner than what you'd want for a display print
> b.) excellent print quality (it needn't come any larger than 8.5x11)
> c.) be able to take the abuse of constant turning pages 
> 
> Any recommendations for a paper ?
> 
> Anyone made a book & have some experience to share ?
> thanks,
> Frank

I have been using 32# Red River Premium Matte for a book project. It 
is very economical and I also use it to make test prints that are 
close to EAM. It is very bright white compared to EAM. I don't think 
you will find a book weight paper that prints well on both sides at 
the same ink lay-down rate as a regular print. You will need to 
compromise. One method to get less ink is to use the o-head 
transparency setting. btw the MIS pig inks look much better on it 
than the Cone piezo inks. 

AZ