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R200 vs R220

R200 vs R220

2005-12-10 by l33ry

Hi. This is my first time posting a question to this group. I've
searched past messages and I have not seen this addressed in any detail.

Film photography is a hobby I picked up a year ago. Budget very
limited. I don't have the facilities to set up for silver printing,
and I'd like to experiment with high-quality inkjet carbon printing,
both black-only and quadtone, and it looks like the Epson/MIS route
offers the biggest bang for the buck. My Canon i550, while a great
general-purpose printer, is not that great for photos, and as far as I
can tell has limited black-only capability. Shopping around,
refurbished R200's are $60 at the Epson store, but I can also find new
R220's for about $35 more. Mr. Roark mentioned in passing that the
R220 drivers are significantly improved over the R200's.

So just to clarify, can I assume:

1. The R220 is worth the extra $35, particularly for B&W.
2. One cannot use R220 drivers with the R200 printer.

I'm shooting 35mm B&W film, developing it in the bathroom, and
scanning with a Canoscan 8400f. Quality is acceptable for my current
purposes and tastes, except for print output, which is a class below
the results I've gotten in the past from an Epson 6-ink RX600. In a
year of trying I have not been able to produce a presentation-quality
photo print with the i550.

Any advice or comments would be appreciated.

- Bob Lee

RE: [Digital BW] R200 vs R220

2005-12-10 by Paul Roark

> 
> ... Shopping around,
> refurbished R200's are $60 at the Epson store, but I can also find new
> R220's for about $35 more.

The R220 can be purchased for $55 on eBay.

It's definitely worth the price.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Re: [Digital BW] R200 vs R220

2005-12-10 by l33ry

Thanks! That certainly moots my Q. Is there a particular seller you
recommend?

Bob

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
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> The R220 can be purchased for $55 on eBay.
> 
> It's definitely worth the price.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>

RE: [Digital BW] R200 vs R220

2005-12-11 by Paul Roark

If there isn't a local discount office supply near you (to avoid shipping),
I'd just go with an eBay seller with a good rating.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com
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> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] R200 vs R220
> 
> Thanks! That certainly moots my Q. Is there a particular seller you
> recommend?
> 
> Bob
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
> <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> >
> > The R220 can be purchased for $55 on eBay.
> >
> > It's definitely worth the price.
> >
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com
> >
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Re: [Digital BW] R200 vs R220

2005-12-11 by l33ry

I have no problem with that...after all I bought most of my photo
equipment and supplies on ebay. I may check out the local Staples
anyway for the quick free delivery and easy returns.

So, and please excuse my slowness, and please correct me if I am
wrong, but I hear you saying two things: a) the R220 is less expensive
than I think, and b) even if it costs a bit more than the R200, it's
money well spent for better results and/or functionality.

Again, thank you very much for the advice.

Bob

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
>
> If there isn't a local discount office supply near you (to avoid
shipping),
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> I'd just go with an eBay seller with a good rating.
> 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
> > <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > >
> > > The R220 can be purchased for $55 on eBay.
> > >
> > > It's definitely worth the price.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > > www.PaulRoark.com
> > >

RE: [Digital BW] R200 vs R220

2005-12-12 by Paul Roark

Bob,

> ...I hear you saying two things: a) the R220 is less expensive
> than I think, and b) even if it costs a bit more than the R200, it's
> money well spent for better results and/or functionality.

Yes, there are a few improvements in the R220 that are worth the very slight
price difference, if any.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com
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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
> <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> >
> > If there isn't a local discount office supply near you (to avoid
> shipping),
> > I'd just go with an eBay seller with a good rating.
> >
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
> > > <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The R220 can be purchased for $55 on eBay.
> > > >
> > > > It's definitely worth the price.
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > > www.PaulRoark.com
> > > >
> 
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