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2006-01-22 by Martin Paul
Hi, You should see if your monitor profile is the one being used by Photoshop. Go into Edit>colorsettings> under working spaces, click on the pull down menu and at the top of that , should be listed your monitor profile. On the Artisan, it is something like CRS photo D65 1.8 and a bunch of numbers.It should match the one in the Artisan software when you launch the cal utility Hope this might help. Martin Paul
2006-01-22 by sagaface
Hi Martin, Thanks for the tip. I have ProPhoto RGB as my working colorspace becuase I have some actions that only work in this space. But you are saying I should have the monitor's space selected instead? This kind of thing has always confused me! Sarah --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Martin Paul <martin@m...> wrote:
> > Hi, > You should see if your monitor profile is the one being used by > Photoshop. > Go into Edit>colorsettings> under working spaces, click on the pull > down menu > and at the top of that , should be listed your monitor profile. On > the Artisan, > it is something like CRS photo D65 1.8 and a bunch of numbers.It > should match the one > in the Artisan software when you launch the cal utility > Hope this might help. > Martin Paul >
2006-01-22 by Tom Baker
Just out curiosity, which actions are color space dependent?
THX
TB
sagaface <sagaface@...> wrote:
Hi Martin,
Thanks for the tip. I have ProPhoto RGB as my working colorspace becuase I have some
actions that only work in this space. But you are saying I should have the monitor's space
selected instead?
This kind of thing has always confused me!
Sarah
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Martin Paul <martin@m...>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
> You should see if your monitor profile is the one being used by
> Photoshop.
> Go into Edit>colorsettings> under working spaces, click on the pull
> down menu
> and at the top of that , should be listed your monitor profile. On
> the Artisan,
> it is something like CRS photo D65 1.8 and a bunch of numbers.It
> should match the one
> in the Artisan software when you launch the cal utility
> Hope this might help.
> Martin Paul
>
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2006-01-22 by sagaface
I recently purchased a set of them from someone who created them to work in ProPhoto RGB. Sarah --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Tom Baker <tbaker1328@s...> wrote: > > Just out curiosity, which actions are color space dependent? > > THX > > TB > > sagaface <sagaface@y...> wrote: > Hi Martin, > > Thanks for the tip. I have ProPhoto RGB as my working colorspace becuase I have some > actions that only work in this space. But you are saying I should have the monitor's space > selected instead? > > This kind of thing has always confused me! > > Sarah > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Martin Paul <martin@m...> > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > You should see if your monitor profile is the one being used by > > Photoshop. > > Go into Edit>colorsettings> under working spaces, click on the pull > > down menu > > and at the top of that , should be listed your monitor profile. On > > the Artisan, > > it is something like CRS photo D65 1.8 and a bunch of numbers.It > > should match the one > > in the Artisan software when you launch the cal utility > > Hope this might help. > > Martin Paul > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Digital wedding photography Learn digital photography Digital photography college Digital photography Digital photography web site Digital photography course
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2006-01-22 by Martin Paul
Hi Sarah, I know its confusing,> I hope I did not mislead. I Typed in haste. I just wanted to see if your Artisan profile that is built by the calibrator is the one being used by Photoshop to display your images. You should stick to Pro photo RGB if thats what's been working for you; its just that in that same pull down menu at the very top happens to be the place that Photoshop tells you what monitor profile it is using. It needs to match the one shown in the calibration software. Another place to check and I have seen this happen is open the monitor's control panel in system preferences, and click on color. You should see a list of available profiles and make sure that the one built by the calibrator is selected. Sometimes it defaults to something else. THis will make a big difference in how the screen displays images. Martin Paul On Jan 22, 2006, at 6:14 PM, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> Subject: Re: Re: Sony Artisan monitor, anyone > > > Thanks for the tip. I have ProPhoto RGB as my working colorspace > becuase I have some > actions that only work in this space. But you are saying I should > have the monitor's space > selected instead? > > This kind of thing has always confused me! > > Sarah >
2006-01-23 by wwodets
Martin, I believe that I am correct in saying that the working space should *not* be the monitor profile. Photoshop automatically uses the monitor profile recognized by the operating system (at least on the PC). The working space should represent something like the printer space (gamma 2.2, dot gain 20% or something like that). Photoshop "translates" from file to monitor and file to printer and the use of the monitor profile as working space will defeat the entire idea of "color" management. We are interested in seeing, on screen, the printer space. The monitor profile used as working space will limit the printed image to the monitor space. Perhaps there is something I am misunderstanding in this observation and, if so, someone should correct me. Walt --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Martin Paul <martin@m...> wrote: > > Hi, > You should see if your monitor profile is the one being used by > Photoshop. > Go into Edit>colorsettings> under working spaces, click on the pull
> down menu > and at the top of that , should be listed your monitor profile. On > the Artisan, > it is something like CRS photo D65 1.8 and a bunch of numbers.It > should match the one > in the Artisan software when you launch the cal utility > Hope this might help. > Martin Paul >
2006-01-23 by sagaface
Paul, thanks for clarifying. I checked the display in system preferences and the right profile was indeed selected. And Walt, I do think for PS it should not be, so I"ve got it on ProPhoto RGB still. Re-calibrating the monitor did seem to help. Sarah --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "wwodets" <odets@c...> wrote:
> > > Martin, > > I believe that I am correct in saying that the working space should > *not* be the monitor profile. Photoshop automatically uses the > monitor profile recognized by the operating system (at least on the > PC). The working space should represent something like the printer > space (gamma 2.2, dot gain 20% or something like that). > Photoshop "translates" from file to monitor and file to printer and > the use of the monitor profile as working space will defeat the > entire idea of "color" management. We are interested in seeing, on > screen, the printer space. The monitor profile used as working space > will limit the printed image to the monitor space. > > Perhaps there is something I am misunderstanding in this observation > and, if so, someone should correct me. > > Walt > > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Martin Paul > <martin@m...> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > You should see if your monitor profile is the one being used by > > Photoshop. > > Go into Edit>colorsettings> under working spaces, click on the > pull > > down menu > > and at the top of that , should be listed your monitor profile. On > > the Artisan, > > it is something like CRS photo D65 1.8 and a bunch of numbers.It > > should match the one > > in the Artisan software when you launch the cal utility > > Hope this might help. > > Martin Paul > > >
2006-01-23 by Martin Paul
Yes, you are correct. I was not clear in my description. The monitor profile used by the computer is displayed at the top of the RGB working space pull down menu in Photoshop. It is not recommended to choose that, but just to check what profile is being used by the computer. It is easier and less confusing to just check that the Artisan Profile created by the calibrator is chosen as the monitor profile, and on Mac's it is listed in system preferences>monitors> If that profile is NOT chosen, then the display of images could be affected. On Jan 23, 2006, at 6:14 AM, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com wrote: color.
> Subject: Re: Sony Artisan monitor, anyone > > > Martin, > > I believe that I am correct in saying that the working space should > *not* be the monitor profile. Photoshop automatically uses the > monitor profile recognized by the operating system (at least on the > PC). The working space should represent something like the printer > space (gamma 2.2, dot gain 20% or something like that). > Photoshop "translates" from file to monitor and file to printer and > the use of the monitor profile as working space will defeat the > entire idea of "color" management. We are interested in seeing, on > screen, the printer space. The monitor profile used as working space > will limit the printed image to the monitor space. > > Perhaps there is something I am misunderstanding in this observation > and, if so, someone should correct me. > > Walt