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2006-03-15 by bard960
As far as black and white printing is concerned, has anybody in the group observed any significant difference in prints from RAW files vs prints from JPG files shot in B&W setting? The answer would be relevant to memory card capacity. The question came to me reading Bruce Fraser's "Understanding Digital Raw Capture" where he writes "...JPEG does a decent job of preserving luminance data..." that are the data we are after in B&W photography.
2006-03-15 by John Moody
To each his own, but unless you have capture speed limitations that prevent consideration of RAW capture, it would be like going to the symphony and listening from the lobby. Specifically, you lose tonal range, ability to change white balance, sharpening, noise reduction, and negate any future processing by improved raw converters. There really is no match between the two. Best regards, John Moody
-----Original Message----- From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of bard960 Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:20 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] RAW vs JPGs B&W As far as black and white printing is concerned, has anybody in the group observed any significant difference in prints from RAW files vs prints from JPG files shot in B&W setting? The answer would be relevant to memory card capacity. The question came to me reading Bruce Fraser's "Understanding Digital Raw Capture" where he writes "...JPEG does a decent job of preserving luminance data..." that are the data we are after in B&W photography. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-03-15 by xun wang
The more post processing you do to the pictures, the more you'll benefit from shooting in RAW. On 3/15/06, John Moody <moodymz3@...> wrote: > > To each his own, but unless you have capture speed limitations that > prevent > consideration of RAW capture, it would be like going to the symphony and > listening from the lobby. Specifically, you lose tonal range, ability to > change white balance, sharpening, noise reduction, and negate any future > processing by improved raw converters. There really is no match between > the > two. > > Best regards, > John Moody > > > -----Original Message----- > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of bard960 > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:20 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] RAW vs JPGs B&W > > As far as black and white printing is concerned, has anybody in the > group observed any significant difference in prints from RAW files vs > prints from JPG files shot in B&W setting? The answer would be > relevant to memory card capacity. 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2006-03-15 by Tom Baker
John - I'd carry your analogy a little further: it's like listening to the symphony through a 5x7 speaker on a old car radio. Tom Baker John Moody <moodymz3@...> wrote: To each his own, but unless you have capture speed limitations that prevent consideration of RAW capture, it would be like going to the symphony and listening from the lobby. Specifically, you lose tonal range, ability to change white balance, sharpening, noise reduction, and negate any future processing by improved raw converters. There really is no match between the two. Best regards, John Moody
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[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of bard960
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:20 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] RAW vs JPGs B&W
As far as black and white printing is concerned, has anybody in the
group observed any significant difference in prints from RAW files vs
prints from JPG files shot in B&W setting? The answer would be
relevant to memory card capacity. The question came to me reading
Bruce Fraser's "Understanding Digital Raw Capture" where he
writes "...JPEG does a decent job of preserving luminance data..."
that are the data we are after in B&W photography.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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