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VM-Sepia-Neutral [was your color 1280 (was Re: [Digital BW] OT-Edge Burning Techniques)]

VM-Sepia-Neutral [was your color 1280 (was Re: [Digital BW] OT-Edge Burning Techniques)]

2002-01-13 by Paul Roark

>>BTW, I now have two 1280's, one color and one MIS VM. The 7000 has
>>FS inks. I am looking forward to the Neutral FS offering.

>In the absence of sepia-neutral, I'm leaning toward VM ...

I've sent MIS the formula for VM-Sepia-Neutral.  They are selling the toner
on request and sending some the toner with the standard MIS VM (medium warm)
gray base.

I'll have my latest (hopefully final) test mix of the FS-Neutral in the
printer today.

(The "non-warming" mix is also very close, and I've sent the formula to MIS.
I do want to do more testing of that, however, and it may be the MIS is just
going to hold off on the neutral until the final non-warming version is
done.  The proliferation of inks/inventory is a problem for a small
business.)

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

Re: VM-Sepia-Neutral [was your color 1280 (was Re: [Digital BW] OT-Edge Burning Techniques)]

2002-01-13 by Sam A. McCandless

Thanks to Paul for all this good news. I wish I was in a position to 
take advantage of all of it. But I think I'd better start with just 
the VM-Sepia-Neutral. And if I understand Paul's first paragraph 
below, which is doubtful, I now can.

If so, for use in a CIS for the 1160, should I order on 
<inksupply.com>, quoted here:

>MIS VARIABLE MIX QUADTONE INKSETS - For use with Paul Roark Workflows
>	VM-QUAD-SET	(4) FOUR OZ BOTTLES - Dark, Med, VM1, Black	$56.00

and substitute the toner they send along with it (in a bottle?) for 
the "Med" bottle?


Will I later need, to re-fill the toner bottle:

>INKS FOR CUSTOM TINTING - For those who want to make their own inkset
>	ESC-BASE-PT	PINT BOTTLE OF BASE STOCK - Clear	$24.00

or is this "base stock" not the same as the "toner" they sell on request?


I would call MIS up tomorrow and ask them these questions except that 
when I called Friday to ask about the new Full Spectrum (color, not 
Quadtone) inkset, I got the impression that the person staffing the 
phone might not understand what we're up to. I know I don't!

Thanks.

Sam
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> >>BTW, I now have two 1280's, one color and one MIS VM. The 7000 has
> >>FS inks. I am looking forward to the Neutral FS offering.
>
> >In the absence of sepia-neutral, I'm leaning toward VM ...
>
>I've sent MIS the formula for VM-Sepia-Neutral.  They are selling the toner
>on request and sending some the toner with the standard MIS VM (medium warm)
>gray base.
>
>I'll have my latest (hopefully final) test mix of the FS-Neutral in the
>printer today.
>
>(The "non-warming" mix is also very close, and I've sent the formula to MIS.
>I do want to do more testing of that, however, and it may be the MIS is just
>going to hold off on the neutral until the final non-warming version is
>done.  The proliferation of inks/inventory is a problem for a small
>business.)
>
>Paul
>http://www.PaulRoark.com

Re: VM-Sepia-Neutral [was your color 1280 (was Re: [Digital BW] OT-Edge Burning Techniques)]

2002-01-13 by Bill Agee

I am a bit confused, too.  Has their been a recent change in the MIS 
VM inksets in the last several weeks?  I just purchased a 4oz test 
size for use in my 1160 about a month ago.  Works great for me.  If I 
had one criticism ( we photographers are always very picky) it was I 
would like a little more punch in the blacks, BUT not at the expense 
of the archival life of the inks.  In other words, I don't want dyes 
mixed in that could increase metamerism or decrease life.

Is there a new revised inkset  that I need to know about?

Bill

>Thanks to Paul for all this good news. I wish I was in a position to
>take advantage of all of it. But I think I'd better start with just
>the VM-Sepia-Neutral. And if I understand Paul's first paragraph
>below, which is doubtful, I now can.
>
>If so, for use in a CIS for the 1160, should I order on
><inksupply.com>, quoted here:
>
>>MIS VARIABLE MIX QUADTONE INKSETS - For use with Paul Roark Workflows
>>	VM-QUAD-SET	(4) FOUR OZ BOTTLES - Dark, Med, VM1, Black	$56.00
>
>and substitute the toner they send along with it (in a bottle?) for
>the "Med" bottle?
>
>
>Will I later need, to re-fill the toner bottle:
>
>>INKS FOR CUSTOM TINTING - For those who want to make their own inkset
>>	ESC-BASE-PT	PINT BOTTLE OF BASE STOCK - Clear	$24.00
>
>or is this "base stock" not the same as the "toner" they sell on request?
>
>
>I would call MIS up tomorrow and ask them these questions except that
>when I called Friday to ask about the new Full Spectrum (color, not
>Quadtone) inkset, I got the impression that the person staffing the
>phone might not understand what we're up to. I know I don't!
>
>Thanks.
>
>Sam
>
>
>>  >>BTW, I now have two 1280's, one color and one MIS VM. The 7000 has
>>  >>FS inks. I am looking forward to the Neutral FS offering.
>>
>>  >In the absence of sepia-neutral, I'm leaning toward VM ...
>>
>>I've sent MIS the formula for VM-Sepia-Neutral.  They are selling the toner
>>on request and sending some the toner with the standard MIS VM (medium warm)
>>gray base.
>>
>>I'll have my latest (hopefully final) test mix of the FS-Neutral in the
>>printer today.
>>
>>(The "non-warming" mix is also very close, and I've sent the formula to MIS.
>>I do want to do more testing of that, however, and it may be the MIS is just
>>going to hold off on the neutral until the final non-warming version is
>>done.  The proliferation of inks/inventory is a problem for a small
>>business.)
>>
>>Paul
>>http://www.PaulRoark.com
>
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